JackS Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 I know you cannot amend the allocation methodology once someone has satisfied the accrual requirements for a particular year. In this case, there is a 1000 hour requirement for accrual of the NE. I thought there was guidance issued by the IRS about 6 - 8 year ago where they specified that if the amendment was done by May 15th (Calendar year plan), the amendment was permissible even if someone had worked more than 1000 hours. I cannot find anything to support this now. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
ETA Consulting LLC Posted April 5, 2018 Posted April 5, 2018 Doesn't sound familiar to me. Good Luck! CPC, QPA, QKA, TGPC, ERPA
Mike Preston Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 This may help or hinder and it may or may not be what was alluded to: https://benefitslink.com/src/irs/tam9735001.html
Bird Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 Doesn't sound familiar. If the plan also has a last day requirement that would mean that no one has met that requirement and the formula could be changed. Ed Snyder
CuseFan Posted April 6, 2018 Posted April 6, 2018 Unless the last day (and/or hours) requirement is waived for death, disability and/or retirement, in which case someone could (activity would have to be checked) satisfy entitlement to a contribution very early in the year and effectively kill the ability to amend the formula. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Larry Starr Posted April 8, 2018 Posted April 8, 2018 In all the years I handled the ASPAA Q&As with IRS, that answer never was given and, based on my knowledge of those folks, never would be given. Count the hours; if they have 1000 before the amendment (whatever date), it's a 411(d)(6) protected benefit and you have to preserve it. Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
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