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I know you cannot amend the allocation methodology once someone has satisfied the accrual requirements for a particular year.  In this case, there is a 1000 hour requirement for accrual of the NE.  I thought there was guidance issued by the IRS about 6 - 8 year ago where they specified that if the amendment was done by May 15th (Calendar year plan), the amendment was permissible even if someone had worked more than 1000 hours.  I cannot find anything to support this now.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  

 

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Doesn't sound familiar.  If the plan also has a last day requirement that would mean that no one has met that requirement and the formula could be changed.

Ed Snyder

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Unless the last day (and/or hours) requirement is waived for death, disability and/or retirement, in which case someone could (activity would have to be checked) satisfy entitlement to a contribution very early in the year and effectively kill the ability to amend the formula.

Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA

Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services

kprell@bpas.com

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In all the years I handled the ASPAA Q&As with IRS, that answer never was given and, based on my knowledge of those folks, never would be given. Count the hours; if they have 1000 before the amendment (whatever date), it's a 411(d)(6) protected benefit and you have to preserve it.

Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC
President
Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc.
46 Daggett Drive
West Springfield, MA 01089
413-736-2066
larrystarr@qpc-inc.com

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