LarryDavid Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 For anyone that has experience with annuity buy-ins, how have you calculated the Funding Target liability for the purchased group? I believe for accounting purposes the liability is set equal to the fair value of the GAC, but is that also true for the FT? Or are we required to use the PPA-defined segment rates?
Effen Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 I don't think there is a "right" answer to this as the law never contemplated buy-ins. We have continued to use the segment rates, but it has always generated a $0 MRC so haven't really had to think too hard. We would probably think harder if the plan had a VRP premium. Since the PBGC has no risk if a plan is 100% in a buy-in doesn't seem right that the sponsor would be required to pay a VRP. I guess if that ever happened, we would probably have a conversation with the PBGC. Luke Bailey 1 The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
LarryDavid Posted October 31, 2023 Author Posted October 31, 2023 Thanks Effen. I suppose if the plan were more than 100% funded then you're right, the MRC and PBGC VRP would both likely be $0 regardless of the methodology used. If the plan were less than 100% funded, however, we'd have to think more about the 'correct' liability to use. Though in either case I like your argument that a PBGC premium should not apply for a plan that is fully guaranteed under a GAC. Luke Bailey 1
acm_acm Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I'm not an expert on this, but I would think you measure the total benefit obligation, FT, etc. and then treat the buy-in annuity as a plan asset valued at cash/surrender value.
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