Jakyasar Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM Hi I have not had an experience with low balances for many years and just want to confirm my findings. Checking a PBGC termination for a CB plan - official termination date is late August 2026.. There are a few participants missing but their balances are less than 7k. Some are as low as $500 Plan just got amended to increase the force-out to 7k. If the participants cannot be located, PBGC will take over their balances as lump sum since no annuities, correct? Instead of PBGC taking over, can the balances be transferred to an IRA thru a company like Penchecks? If yes, is this subject to PBGC approval? Thank you QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
Calavera Posted Friday at 05:53 PM Posted Friday at 05:53 PM No, you cannot transfer these benefits to an IRA. Sending them to PBGC probably will be cheaper than going through an annuity purchase process.
Marjorie Lucas Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Have you tried LexisNexis in an attempt to locate the participants before sending them to PBGC? You may also use these other tools if needed. TLOxp (TransUnion) Tracers idiCORE (IDI Data) Experian Search Services
CuseFan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago If under the terms of the plan and prior to the termination (maybe too late now if process started/NOITs issued) you could do auto rollover as a function of normal plan administration then I think it would be permissible. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Jakyasar Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Marjorie Lucas said: Have you tried LexisNexis in an attempt to locate the participants before sending them to PBGC? You may also use these other tools if needed. TLOxp (TransUnion) Tracers idiCORE (IDI Data) Experian Search Services Thank you for the list, always good to know more QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
Jakyasar Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 41 minutes ago, CuseFan said: If under the terms of the plan and prior to the termination (maybe too late now if process started/NOITs issued) you could do auto rollover as a function of normal plan administration then I think it would be permissible. NOIT already done QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
Jakyasar Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago Just attended the ASEA PBGC webinar and the answer to my question, unless you payout before even thinking about terminating the plan, no payout can be made and all those $500 benefits must go thru the PBGC termination process. QKA, QKC, QPA, CBS - I used to be indecisive about pensions but now I am not so sure
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