Guest patom Posted January 15, 2001 Posted January 15, 2001 We have a 401(k) plan & a 403(B) plan. Going forward, we would just like to offer the 401(k) plan. With respect to eliminating the 403(B) plan, what are our options? Should we freeze it? Could we terminate it & pay out all individuals? Is ther new legislation that would allow participants to move their 403(B) dollars into their 401(k) accounts?
Carol V. Calhoun Posted February 11, 2001 Posted February 11, 2001 The tax bills in 1999 and 2000 would have permitted 403(B) money to be transferred to a 401(k) account. The legislation was not considered controversial, but failed to be enacted only because it was attached to tax bills which never managed to get both passed by Congress and signed by the President. However, the provision will most likely be included in some legislation this year. 403(B) money is supposed to be held in annuity contracts or custodial accounts owned by the employee. Thus, absent (a) the passage of the legislation referenced above, and (B) an employee's election to move money from the 403(B) to a 401(k), the employer typically has no way to force a transfer. Employee benefits legal resource site The opinions of my postings are my own and do not necessarily represent my law firm's position, strategies, or opinions. The contents of my postings are offered for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice. A visit to this board or an exchange of information through this board does not create an attorney-client relationship. You should consult directly with an attorney for individual advice regarding your particular situation. I am not your lawyer under any circumstances.
david rigby Posted February 12, 2001 Posted February 12, 2001 I am under the impression that there is no technical authority for terminating a 403(B) plan. Is that correct? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Carol V. Calhoun Posted February 12, 2001 Posted February 12, 2001 You are correct. Because the contracts are owned by employees, an employer is not in a position to shut down the trust fund, as could be done for a 401(a) plan. Employee benefits legal resource site The opinions of my postings are my own and do not necessarily represent my law firm's position, strategies, or opinions. The contents of my postings are offered for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal advice. A visit to this board or an exchange of information through this board does not create an attorney-client relationship. You should consult directly with an attorney for individual advice regarding your particular situation. I am not your lawyer under any circumstances.
PMC Posted February 13, 2001 Posted February 13, 2001 Couldn't there be a possibility that the 403(B) may be an "employer spnosored plan" and is funded via a group annuity contract with the employer as the contractowner and the employer decides to terminate the contract and make distributions to participants? Or doesn't it matter that it is an employer plan - can't distribute 403(B) elective deferrals in this event?
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