Gary Posted February 1, 2001 Posted February 1, 2001 A plan provides that a lump sum is paid based on the PBGC male rates and factors as of 1/1 of a plan year. With respect to mortality rates, some may say this means UP 84 + 1. However, PBGC rates include a unisex UP84 table with no age adjustment. So where does the rational to use UP84+1 for males come from? If anyone knows this. Otherwise I might argue to use the GAM83 PBGC table (Table 1, Appendix A, Part 4044 of ERISA). Thanks, Gary
david rigby Posted February 1, 2001 Posted February 1, 2001 I think, pre-GATT, that unisex mortality was required [that is, under IRC 417(e)(3)], but that no specific mortality table was required. Of course, the specifics (under GATT or otherwise) merely provide a minimum. As an aside, I agree that this particular definition probably means UP84 +1, but stating in the document that the mortality basis is "PBGC male rates" is poor drafting. There is no excuse for not being precise in this area. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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