Belgarath Posted December 20, 2021 Posted December 20, 2021 Just curious if you had ever encountered this. Non-Profit plan that otherwise would qualify for non-ERISA status, utilized (unintentionally, apparently) an ERISA 403(b) document. Has never filed 5500 forms. Obviously can use DFVCP program, so costs are not onerous. I see no option. By executing an ERISA document, it seems to me that they have elected ERISA status, and they can't say it is "non-ERISA" just because they would otherwise qualify for non-ERISA status. Any other opinions?
Luke Bailey Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 Belgarath, I think what you're saying is that there are no employer contributions, no employer involvement in loans, hardship determinations, or investments, i.e., no substantive authority conferred on the employer that would cause the plan to be subject to ERISA, but the document contains a provision that says the plan is governed by ERISA. I think the plan is covered by ERISA in that case, because the 403(b) legal document adopted by the employer chooses ERISA as the governing law. Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
leevena Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Luke Bailey said: Belgarath, I think what you're saying is that there are no employer contributions, no employer involvement in loans, hardship determinations, or investments, i.e., no substantive authority conferred on the employer that would cause the plan to be subject to ERISA, but the document contains a provision that says the plan is governed by ERISA. I think the plan is covered by ERISA in that case, because the 403(b) legal document adopted by the employer chooses ERISA as the governing law. Luke, I have a question for you about your reply. If an employer is exempt from ERISA but adopts ERISA guidelines, does this automatically make it an ERISA group going forward?
Luke Bailey Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 Oh no, leevena. I assumed the plan is for a 501(c)(3), aka "nonprofit." Luke Bailey Senior Counsel Clark Hill PLC 214-651-4572 (O) | LBailey@clarkhill.com 2600 Dallas Parkway Suite 600 Frisco, TX 75034
leevena Posted December 22, 2021 Posted December 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Luke Bailey said: Oh no, leevena. I assumed the plan is for a 501(c)(3), aka "nonprofit." Ok, thanks so much for the clarification.
Belgarath Posted December 22, 2021 Author Posted December 22, 2021 Luke - yes, your assumption was correct.
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