401kmaurice Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 We have a client that did not use the correct compensation when deducting deferrals, which also affected their match allocation. The QNEC and earnings corrections have been deposited for all participants. The question is, is this situation a reportable event on Form 5330 Section 4975? If so, is it 15% of lost earnings?
CuseFan Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Certainly an operational defect (OD) and it has been corrected. Not all ODs give rise to a prohibited transaction (PT). To the extent you have deferrals deposited late you have a PT - but your correction was an ER contribution, there were no salary deferrals withheld for which the employer had prohibited use that would create a PT, in my opinion, so I think you are OK on that front. Luke Bailey and ugueth 2 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Bri Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 This is a weird one, indeed. It's not that the plan sponsor "knew" it was holding onto assets that should have been in the plan - they didn't know they'd computed the amount incorrectly. They did "timely" contribute the revised amount's differences, right? That "feels" like they wouldn't have done anything else wrong from a prohibited-transaction standpoint. Certainly we'd talk about it more otherwise here on the boards, no, if anyone else had considered this angle?
John Feldt ERPA CPC QPA Posted December 28, 2023 Posted December 28, 2023 Operational error only, assuming all amounts actually withheld from paychecks were deposited timely. So no prohibited transaction, as Kenneth stated above. The correction should include missed earnings, of course, but there is no employer use of withheld amounts to create a PT, assuming there isn’t some other fiduciary breach here. CuseFan and Luke Bailey 1 1
401kmaurice Posted December 29, 2023 Author Posted December 29, 2023 Thanks very much for the responses. Employer did deposit corrective QNEC and missed earnings timely.
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