metsfan026 Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 We have someone with an old SEP IRA plan that they are looking to roll the money into a Cash Balance Plan? The value of the SEP is around $1.1 million, just for reference. Thanks in advance!
Effen Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 Why? Lou S., Luke Bailey, acm_acm and 1 other 4 The material provided and the opinions expressed in this post are for general informational purposes only and should not be used or relied upon as the basis for any action or inaction. You should obtain appropriate tax, legal, or other professional advice.
CuseFan Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 Exactly. It is possible if the CBP document says rollovers are accepted, but it must be tracked as a segregated account (RK-wise, assets do not need to be physically segregated). It doesn't affect the benefit obligation of the CBP, so in the word of Effen: 1 hour ago, Effen said: Why? acm_acm and Luke Bailey 2 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
truphao Posted March 14, 2024 Posted March 14, 2024 I am not sure I agree with a "separate account" notion. If the plan is designed properly a participant can "purchase" an additional piece of benefit (an annuity) by rolling in his DC money. That additionally purchased benefit is not subject to 415 and it is PBGC protected (if the plan is PBGC covered). So, there might be some numerical leverage involved if/when segment rates go above 5.50%. There is a lot of math there. This is one potential why. Need more info what people are trying to accomplish. Luke Bailey 1
CuseFan Posted March 15, 2024 Posted March 15, 2024 True, and good point. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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