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2 hypothetical scenarios so making things up:

Scenario 1: A QRP receives 105k in excess assets from a DB plan and will allocate in 7 years. It is invested in a 0% interest bearing account.

Year 1 must allocate 15k (1/7th of 105k) so end of Year 1 balance is now 90k

What are the Year 2 and Year 3 requirements assuming minimum will be allocated

Scenario 2: Same as above with the exception it is invested in an account that will have 10% return

Year 1 must allocate 15k but now end of Year 1 balance is 99k

What are the Year 2 and Year 3 requirements assuming minimum will be allocated?

Thanks

Posted

Geez, why make it complicated?  Think of BOTH as a minimum allocation as: one-seventh, one-sixth, one-fifth, one-fourth, etc.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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Exactly, so w/o interest 1/7 of $105k is $15k in year one, 1/6 of $90k is again $15k in year two, so w/o any interest all years are $15k.

With gain/loss, year two is 1/6 of whatever that balance is. If 10% gain, then 1/6 of $99k is $16,500 for year two. And so on.

Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA

Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services

kprell@bpas.com

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