metsfan026 Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM Posted yesterday at 03:50 PM I know the Gateway for plans being tested together (Cash Balance & 401(k)) is generally 7.5% (but it's not required). My question is though, does that 7.5% include the Safe Harbor if it's being done? We are now installing a Cash Balance Plan, but there is an existing 401(k) Plan that is already giving a 6% Safe Harbor. So, I wanted to make sure that to satisfy the Gateway we only needed to give an additional 1.5% into the Profit Sharing? Thanks in advance!
CuseFan Posted yesterday at 05:49 PM Posted yesterday at 05:49 PM Safe harbor non-elective counts toward gateway and rate group accrual rates for 401a4 testing, safe harbor match does not. If your 6% SH is the match it doesn't help you and could hurt the situation. If this is a small professional services employer where you may need to limit DC ER to 6%, the SHM is often a roadblock and can delay CB implementation until the following year, switching SH to non-elective. David D, Bri, Bill Presson and 1 other 4 Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Bri Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Also they'll get a partial credit towards the gateway from any CB pay credit. However, it almost definitely will not be one-for-one, but rather an "equivalent" allocation rate based on the DC testing parameters.
CuseFan Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Bri said: partial credit towards the gateway from any CB pay credit yes, good point Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
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