bmore1147 Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 context 2 separate entities created a 501(c)(3) Joint operating company (JOC)- essentially a virtual merger with no transfer of assets- there are no employees of the JOC - any expenses for the JOC are invoiced to the separate entities. The separate entities share no common ownership. the companies want to set up 1 plan and align their other benefit programs, create efficiencies in management, finance, etc. Company A - church 403b Company B church 401(k) My question is- Could the JOC sponsor a plan where the 2 separate entities are adopting employers? could the assets be merged into this plan? (i know the DoT hasn't ruled on the compliance requirements for church 401k/403b mergers resulting from PATH act, expected sometime this year) I think it is safer to keep both plans separate and align the plan design previsions across both plans. I would imagine that the JOC could be set up as a PEO and sponsor a plan but i think for simplicity keeping both plans separate is probably the most appropriate path - if anyone has any guidance on this issue or has worked with it in the past, that would be helpful - can provide more information as requested.
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted March 6, 2018 Posted March 6, 2018 Not speaking to the merger question at this time, but why not have Church B adopt Church A's 403(b) plan and terminate the church B 401(k)? Eliminates the 5500 and puts both on one document. At least freeze the 401(k) and have Church B adopt Church A's church plan. Kepp it simple, etc. Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
bmore1147 Posted March 7, 2018 Author Posted March 7, 2018 Thanks Patricia- A couple of questions Company A and Company B are still unrelated separate entities - they are not part of a controlled group, they are not ASG's- the JOC that was created does not own either entity - to that extent - can these unrelated separate employers adopt a single plan? Wouldn't we need to do a MEP if they were to adopt a plan together? Happy to provide more information. thanks
Patricia Neal Jensen Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 You will make this a MEP if they are unrelated and adopt the same plan but non-electing churches do not file 5500's so what would be the problem? Patricia Neal Jensen, JD Vice President and Nonprofit Practice Leader |Future Plan, an Ascensus Company 21031 Ventura Blvd., 12th Floor Woodland Hills, CA 91364 E patricia.jensen@futureplan.com P 949-325-6727
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