Belgarath Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 When you think you've heard it all... Non-profit ERISA 403(b) plan. The business decided to install a 457 plan so that they could contribute for the lone HC executive. Fine. Due to a new and inexperienced Human Resources person, they not only didn't timely adopt the 457 plan, but the employer contributions were just sent to and deposited into the 403(b) plan! This happened for several months until it was finally noticed. Now, I know about PLR 9144041, etc., and although this situation doesn't clearly fall under the stated "mathematical errors", etc., it does seem like there should be some latitude to consider a contribution to the wrong plan (even though other plan not yet established) as a mistake of fact. For example, if a client has a DB plan and a DC plan, and the DB contribution sent to the DC plan, I'd feel comfortable having that refunded under a mistake of fact. Thoughts on this situation? I know this interpretation may be pushing the envelope, but it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me.
QDROphile Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 What practical difference does it make what you call it? What would you do differently to rectify?
Belgarath Posted October 3, 2019 Author Posted October 3, 2019 Well, you might have to file under VCP, for example.
Larry Starr Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 19 hours ago, Belgarath said: When you think you've heard it all... Non-profit ERISA 403(b) plan. The business decided to install a 457 plan so that they could contribute for the lone HC executive. Fine. Due to a new and inexperienced Human Resources person, they not only didn't timely adopt the 457 plan, but the employer contributions were just sent to and deposited into the 403(b) plan! This happened for several months until it was finally noticed. Now, I know about PLR 9144041, etc., and although this situation doesn't clearly fall under the stated "mathematical errors", etc., it does seem like there should be some latitude to consider a contribution to the wrong plan (even though other plan not yet established) as a mistake of fact. For example, if a client has a DB plan and a DC plan, and the DB contribution sent to the DC plan, I'd feel comfortable having that refunded under a mistake of fact. Thoughts on this situation? I know this interpretation may be pushing the envelope, but it doesn't seem that far-fetched to me. It's not a mistake of fact; it's just a plain mistake. The money doesn't belong to the plan, any more than if Vanguard deposited someone else's check into your client's account. They would fix it. That's what this client needs to do. That money doesn't belong to this plan; it doesn't matter if the other plan doesn't exist yet (that's a separate issue). Luke Bailey 1 Lawrence C. Starr, FLMI, CLU, CEBS, CPC, ChFC, EA, ATA, QPFC President Qualified Plan Consultants, Inc. 46 Daggett Drive West Springfield, MA 01089 413-736-2066 larrystarr@qpc-inc.com
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