Dougsbpc Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 I am looking at a proposal for a cash balance plan that is offset by employer contributions to a 401(k) plan. It looks like there are 20 eligible employees but only the two shareholders have net contribution credits of more than $280K in the cash balance plan. They are both in their late 50s and the plan has a NRA of 65. I seem to recall that for purposes of 401(a)26, only the benefits after offset can be considered if they are meaningful (.5% of pay or greater) when a cash balance plan is part of a floor offset arrangement. Whereas benefits before offset are allowed when a traditional defined benefit plan is part of a floor offset arrangement (provided the DC plan has uniform allocations, QJSA etc.) and benefits before offset are meaningful. Anyone agree / disagree?
CuseFan Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 I think there is no difference when applying the rules to traditional DB or CB formula. There was some guidance a few years back that clarified the offset is applied to CB accrued benefit and not current DC contributions versus current CB service credits. Kenneth M. Prell, CEBS, ERPA Vice President, BPAS Actuarial & Pension Services kprell@bpas.com
Calavera Posted November 30, 2020 Posted November 30, 2020 I agree with CuseFan that rules are the same for traditional DB or CB plan. Whether you can offset employees benefits to $0 or not depends on whether offset applied to everyone (owners included) or not. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-wd/201810008.pdf
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