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WCC created a topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs

Re-Amortizing Loan Before Default

"Participant took a loan with a term of 3 years. Employer failed to start loan payments and the employee missed the first 4 payments. The employer found the error and began payments on the 5th scheduled payment. The plan uses the cure period so the loan is not at risk of defaulting assuming all future loan payments are paid timely. However, the employee and employer would like to bring the loan current, but the employee does not want to make a lump sum payment of 4 payments. The idea is to re-amortize the loan keeping it within the 3 year original payoff date and increase the payment amount slightly to still pay off at the original due date. Do you see a problem with re-amortizing before the loan is in default? EPCRS talks about refinancing after default, but is there a reason why you can't refinance before default? I am getting a lot of push back from the TPA that re-amortization cannot be done unless the loan is in default (we don't want to miss payments on purpose, just to get into default so we can refinance)."

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pensiongeek created a topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance

First Year RMD Defined Benefit Plan, No Account Balance by RBD

"I have a DB plan where the plan effective date is for 2024, providing a vested benefit accrual as of 12/31/2024, but the plan did not fund until August 2025. The RBD for the participant/owner was 4/1/2025. Did she miss her first RMD even though there were no assets in the plan to take an RMD from? Or maybe I am over thinking it. This RMD is mute because it is for 2024 which is based on a 2023 accrued balance that did not exist? Maybe her first RMD is actually due by 12/31/2025 for 2025 plan year based on 2024 accrued balance?"

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Belgarath created a topic in Form 5500

5500 Due Date, with 5558 Extension

"Due to a plan merger, short plan year ends October 10th of 2024. If I'm reading the instructions correctly, for a short plan year, the filing due date is the last day of the 7th CALENDAR month after the end of the short year. This would mean due date is May 31, 2025. Right? Then a 5558 extension would extend the due date to August 15, 2025. Seems simple, but I'm getting some pushback."

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