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TennesseeVeteran created a topic in Retirement Plans in General

Family Attribution Rules and Control Group

"There are four business in question. We are looking at various retirement plan options available. Owners are spread between a married Father and Mother, their Son (over age 21), and the Son's Wife. There is no trust involvement, nor is there any buy-sell agreements or options agreements across these businesses. Here is the ownership structure: 'A' Father, 1/3 Mother, 1/3 Son, 1/3 'B' Father, 1/2 Mother, 1/2 'C' Father, 1/2 Mother, 1/2 'D' Son, 99% Son's Wife, 1% A, B, and C have several employees. D is a separate business that does not have employees (owner only). All of my normal resources agree there is no issue with an Affiliated Service Group, leaving the only questions one of ownership control group. Here is my take:

  1. The son would not be attributed ownership of either parent for any of the other companies, as he has less than 50% ownership in A.
  2. If 1 is true, a SEP should be allowed in D, with a separate 415 limit available.
  3. B and C are certainly a control group.
  4. Father and Mother would be attributed each other's ownership, placing them above the 50% threshold in A to also then require they be attributed the son's 1/3rd share, placing the mother and father at 100% effective ownership, making A, B, and C all a combined Control Group, but still leaving D separate.

One TPA has said that #4 is wrong, and that A is not brought into the CG. Other's in my sphere agree with my read as above. For now, the A/B/C question is moot as we will open the same Plan across each of these anyway. But it matters for future potential changes, as well as needing to know if we are clear to do the SEP in D for the son."

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Lou81 created a topic in Distributions and Loans, Other than QDROs

Loan for Primary Residence

"Hello. Participant is looking to take a loan to purchase a primary residence. He is purchasing a house. However, he is not planning on moving in right away, as he has a lot of repairs to do. Is there a time frame to consider this his primary residence?"

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RayJJohnsonJr created a topic in 401(k) Plans

Easiest Way to Find Old Terminated Employees?

"This is been a problem for a long time and I haven't asked this question in a while: What is the easiest way to find old terminated employees to try and pay them out?"

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Lois Baker created a topic in Retirement Plans in General

IRS Releases 2026 Inflation-Adjusted Limits

"Notice 2025-67 just released, with the official retirement plan limits for 2026."

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