Guest Kriso Posted April 30, 2003 Posted April 30, 2003 An employer fired an employee for embezzlement, criminal charges are pending. The employer would like to be reimbused for the stolen funds from the employees 401(k) plan balance. It is my understanding that this cannot be done. Am I right??
KJohnson Posted April 30, 2003 Posted April 30, 2003 Right. (If he stole from the plan itself and you obtained a judgment the answer might be different).
GBurns Posted April 30, 2003 Posted April 30, 2003 Aside from the fact that the employer cannot arbitrarily attach the employee's 401(k), has this employer considered that the employee has not been convicted as yet, in fact, not tried or even charged as yet? What happens if this employer starts raising a stink, starts bad mouthing the employee, starts trying to take action, THEN the employee either does not get charged or even if charged does not get convicted? This employer would be well advised to shut up and let his lawyer handle the issues or else he could very well end up with this employee as his new "boss". George D. Burns Cost Reduction Strategies Burns and Associates, Inc www.costreductionstrategies.com(under construction) www.employeebenefitsstrategies.com(under construction)
david rigby Posted April 30, 2003 Posted April 30, 2003 There are some earlier discussion threads that might be related, such as: http://www.benefitslink.com/boards/index.p...=ST&f=20&t=4546 http://www.benefitslink.com/boards/index.p...t=ST&f=1&t=8846 http://www.benefitslink.com/boards/index.p...t=ST&f=1&t=8293 I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
mbozek Posted April 30, 2003 Posted April 30, 2003 The employer's only recourse is to sue the employee for conversion of the funds and after getting a judgment, recover the funds from any assets of the employee, e.g., bank accounts. The employee's 401(k) benefits cannot be attached until paid to the employee. The employer cound attach any nonqualified deferred comp benefits due the employee if permitted by the plan. mjb
Guest jfp Posted May 1, 2003 Posted May 1, 2003 The employee can make a voluntary assignment of the benefits to the employer. Check the regs under Section 401(a)(13).
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