R. Butler Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Co A sponsors a safe harbor 401(k) with basic match. Co B sponsors a safe harbor 401(k) with an 100% up to 6% safe harbor match. Co. C will be formed. Co. C will purchase both Co. A & Co. B in asset sale 10/01/06. They are hoping not to terminate the plans & trigger distribution. They want to maintain safe harbor status. They are not adverse to merging the plans. I don't see how they can merge the plans in 2006 & maintain the safe harbor status because they use different match rates. Even if they were willing I don't see that they can increase the match rate under Co. A's plan to 100% up to 6% in 2006; it wouldn't meet the uniform formula requirement for the match. Am I missing something? Is there any reason Co. C couldn't maintain both plans for the remainder of 2006 just to maintain the safe harbor status for both plans? Thanks in advance for any guidance
JanetM Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Transition rules allow you to test the plans separateley until 12/31/07 - an guessing the plans are 12/31 year end. So with that said, you could keep the two plans place and merge anytime in 2007. After 1/01/08 you will have to aggregate the two groups for testing. To merge the plans you will have to settle on single formula due to uniform allocation rule. JanetM CPA, MBA
R. Butler Posted August 7, 2006 Author Posted August 7, 2006 To merge the plans you will have to settle on single formula due to uniform allocation rule. What I am trying to verify is whether they could even possibly merge the plans in 2006 & maintain safe harbor status. In 2007 they'll change to one formula & merge, but its my undersatnding that neither could amend the formula during 2006. And if neither plan can amend the formula for 2006, then they can't be merged during 2006 & maintain safe harbor status. Is that correct? Thanks
Tom Poje Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 I don't believe you could merge them in the current year and maintain safe harbor status. I don't see how that would be any different than what you have - 2 plans, currently you are not permissively aggregating them for nondiscrim testing. furthermore, I believe the transition rules only apply to coverage and not nondiscrim, so the ADP testing does make a difference. I always have to look that one up cuz I get a brain freeze on the issue.
JanetM Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 Right, to merge in 2006 will lose safe harbor status. You would have to do it on 1/01/07 and pick single formula for everyone. Tom, if the are safe harbor don't they get ADP free pass and just have to satisfy ACP if there is after tax contributions? JanetM CPA, MBA
A Shot in the Dark Posted August 7, 2006 Posted August 7, 2006 You don't mention wheter or not company a, b and or c are a controlled group or an affiliated group. Why merge the plans? I think it makes more complication than neeeded. If it is an asset sale as you specify, then plan a stays with company a, plan b stays with company b and company c creates a new plan. Presumably with an asset sale all employees will separate service with the respective company a or b, and possibly hired by the new company c. It is immaterial what plan design a or b is. Plan design c for the new plan can be what it will. It is a new company with a new plan. At the end of the day, the employer company a will have zero employees and a partially terminated plan due to the separation of service of all employees due to the sale. The same will be true with company b. Company a and company b will proceed through whatever plan termination process is appropriate.
Tom Poje Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 Janet: My comment was meant in reference if the plans were merged. They get the free ride transition ride on coverage, but safe harbor is lost so ADP does make a difference. (as opposed to you get a transition on both coverage and nondiscrim) ugh, now I see I have to modify my ASPPA talk on safe harbor 401k to include the automatic enrollment safe harbor. granted it won't be available for a year or so, but what the heck.
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