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    MEP as successor plan... but requiring rollovers into the MEP

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    The sponsor of a PEO MEP is bringing about a new client that already has their own 401k plan.  It's a small plan, but very messy, with provisions that are not part of the MEP (e.g., vesting, distribution options).  I'm thinking that we can't tell them to terminate the 401k and then join the MEP - that might run afoul of successor plan rules.  But what about if we terminate the 401k and tell all the participants that they have to rollover into the MEP?

    Or is there another way around this (other than amending the MEP to allow for all sorts of strange things for this one adopting ER only)?

    Thanks.


    Processing delays with Nationwide

    AndyH
    By AndyH,

    What is a reasonable to await processing of a rollover request (ACH) by an insurance company, in this case Nationwide?   Paperwork, all in order, submitted to Nationwide 3+ weeks ago and nothing but crickets.  My former employer says Nationwide is having issues from a January system conversion and rollovers are taking weeks.   

    I've never been on this side of such an issue.  Is waiting weeks normal?  What if the market had tanked?


    When should a user of an IRS-preapproved document sign its SECURE 2019 amendment?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    A recordkeeper recently presented to my client (a plan’s sponsor, administrator, and trustee) the recordkeeper’s draft of a “SECURE 1.0/CARES Interim Amendment”.

    Some choices are filled-in with the recordkeeper’s presumptions. Other choices are deliberately uncompleted, but specify a default if no box is marked.

    While recognizing that this amendment need not be done until December 31, 2025, the recordkeeper suggests completing and signing it now. Here’s my question:

    Is there any disadvantage in waiting until the last few months of 2025 to do this amendment?

    Is there any advantage (beyond removing the risk of forgetting) in doing it now?

    What opportunities are gained or lost by waiting or acting now?

    (If it matters, this client never uses the recordkeeper’s draft of a summary plan description or a summary of material modifications.)

    BenefitsLink neighbors, I welcome your ideas.

    While I’m not a procrastinator when it comes to plan amendments (I delivered other clients’ SECURE 2019 amendments in early January 2020), I recognize that I don’t know enough about the practicalities involved.)


    Controlling plan provision: plan at time of death or time of correction?

    t.haley
    By t.haley,

    401k plan making a corrective distribution in 2024 based on error in past plan years.  Default beneficiary provisions are different in current plan document than the plan document in place at the time of the error.  Default beneficiaries (where no beneficiary designation is made) in previous document: spouse, children, parents estate.  Current plan document: spouse, estate.  Which provision controls?  


    First Time Homebuyer age 37

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    I have a 37 year old homebuyer who wants to take a distribution from her ROTH  401k -  buying her first home.  Is there a  dollar limit (besides 100% of her account) that she can take?  Is this exempt from the 10% penalty if it's her first home?   What if it's her second home?


    Is an after-tax option required for payment of medical/dental premiums?

    kgr12
    By kgr12,

    Offering employees the ability to pay for their share of health premiums on an after-tax basis is administratively burdensome, and it would be advantageous to eliminate it. Doing so of course raises several issues, the most immediate ones I can think of:

    1. Can a benefits wrap plan that incudes section 125 limit the payment of medical and dental to pretax only so long as the plan otherwise offers participants a choice between taxable and nontaxable on some other benefit(s), such as disability premium payments?

    2. Other than the possibility that some employees might benefit from an income tax deduction on their premium payments if paid on an after-tax basis, are there any other potential benefits to employees by making after-tax benefits available?

    3. Can this be eliminated mid-year or is it better to have it take effect the following year?

    4. What other issues might be lurking for the unwary?

    Thanks in advance for any insights!


    COLA Ends on Plan Termination?

    John314
    By John314,

    I am working with a single employer pension plan that is looking to terminate their plan. The plan is PBGC covered and will be terminating as part of a standard termination. The plan provides for an annual post-retirement COLA based on CPI and capped at 4.0%. I know that typically a COLA such as this is considered part of the accrued benefit and cannot be amended out. The catch is that the definition of the COLA in the plan document states that the COLA will cease on plan termination. As best I can tell this language has always been in the document and they have received FDLs. I will be pointing them to their attorney for a final opinion, but has anyone come across this? Any thoughts or opinions on whether it is permissible to stop the COLA at plan termination?


    Combo plan - union employee gateway

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Asking for a friend as I do not work with plans that have union employees

    DC/CB combo.

    Union employees excluded from CB

    Union employees only eligible for 401k deferral+SH and excluded from PS (both union and non-union are covered under one plan)

    Does union employee get a gateway?

    Can they be tested totally separately?

    Any insights are appreciated.

    Thanks


    Would a March 8 government shutdown affect your work?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    If neither an appropriation nor a continuing resolution is enacted by March 8, the Treasury department’s government-shutdown plan takes effect.

    That includes no work on writing regulations or nonrule guidance.

    That further slows guidance on SECURE 2022, SECURE 2019, and open projects unrelated to either SECURE Act.

    Also, a shutdown affects IRS customer service.


    Contributions to the solo 401(k) for a QJV with a full-time W-2 job

    ill
    By ill,

    Hi, I am doing calculations for contributions to a solo 401(k) for the first time. While I followed the rules for these calculations, I am still not sure if I did them correctly or if I am missing anything. I have a Qualified Joint Venture (QJV) with my spouse, and I also have a full-time job with a 401(k) there. Our goal is to maximize contributions to the solo traditional 401(k) and make mega-backdoor Roth contributions for the rest of the funds.

    Contributions to 401k from my full time W2 job are the following: 
    Employee Contributions: $21,531.52 (aggregated across retirement plans)
    Employer Contributions: $8,074.32 (does not aggregated across retirement plans)

    Spouse does not have W2 job but materially participate in QJV. 

    QJV income (before any taxes) for me and my spouse: $167,462 

    QJV income for each of us: $167,462 / 2 = $83,731.00
    Earnings subject to self-employment tax: $83,731 * 0.9235 = $77,325.58 
    One-half of the self-employment tax: $77,325.58 *  0.0765 = $5,915.41 
    Net earnings from QJV income:  $83,731.00 -  $5,915.41 = $77,815.59 

    And here are calculations for contributions:
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    Are those look correct? Do I miss something? Thank you in advance for any help.


    safe harbor non-elective

    thepensionmaven
    By thepensionmaven,

    Plan A is a 401(k) with a SHNE contribution.

    Participant A terminated in 2020 and returned to work for the same employer 12/3/2023 and client wants a cite that the SHNE must be made for this individual, who is now a participant as of his date of hire.


    Start-up Costs - Employer Contribution Credit - Cash or accrual based employer contributions

    Kris G
    By Kris G,

    Are the contribution that qualify for the employer contribution portion of the Start-up contribution tax credit based on:

    1. Contributions actually made during the tax year you are taking the credit for (2023 credit uses only eligible employer contribution actually paid prior to 12/31/2023)

    2. Contributions applicable to the 2023 regardless of when they are paid. (Inclusion of contribution for 2023 that are either paid in 2023 or as a receivable payment in 2024)

    The draft instructions for form 8881 which were just released this month would not seem to be clear.  The instructions use the language "made by an eligible employer for the first tax year during which the plan becomes effective with respect to the eligible employer and the succeeding 4 tax years." 

     

     


    Retirement Plan Start-up tax credits - Qualifying start-up costs - New Small Employer

    Kris G
    By Kris G,

    Can a new small employer claim the tax credit for qualified start-up costs in the first year of the company's existence?

    Assume - Employer begins operation in 2023 (No employees prior to 1/1/2023)

    Employer starts their new plan during 2023 and pays start-up costs for plan design, documents and plan installation during 2023

    Can this employer take a start-up plan tax credit for 2023 for qualifying start-up costs?

    Concern is that one of the requirements to take the credit for qualified start-up costs is that you have to use the number of employees of the employer who received at least $5,000 of compensation from the employer during the tax year preceding the first credit year.  A new employer has no preceding tax year to make this determination.

    Would seem to be two options:

    1. There is no credit available in the first year if a new employer establishes a new plan in its first year of existence.

    2. For new employers you would use the current year to make the determination since there is no preceding year.

    It would seem without some revision to the instructions or other guidance from the IRS that the credit would not be available for the first year.  This would not seem to be the intent of the law but how it should be applied based on how for form 8881 and instructions were drafted.


    § 416 Minimum Contribution Amounts and § 404(a)(3); § 404(a)(3) Limits Perhaps Waived for § 416 Minimum Contributions

    Kent Allard
    By Kent Allard,

    This post's inquiry entails if § 416 minimum contributions routinely have § 404(a)(3) limits waived. 

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/epche903.pdf


    DOL Interpretive Bulletin 95-1

    david rigby
    By david rigby,

    I'm struggling to locate a copy or link for Bulletin 95-1.  Can anyone help?


    Can Multiple IRAs of Deceased Owner be Aggregated for RMD Purposes?

    Plan Doc
    By Plan Doc,

    In the case of an owner of multiple IRAs who was receiving RMDs from her IRA accounts before death, can the IRAs be aggregated after death, as allowed during lifetime, so as to permit payment of the total RMD amount for all the IRAs to be made from a single IRA account? 


    Employee contributed to HSA and also inadvertently contributed to a traditional medical FSA

    Bcompliance2003
    By Bcompliance2003,

    We have a client who had an employee contribute $6,750 to their HSA and $800 into the FSA in 2023. The FSA contribution was meant to go into a limited purpose account, but they just learned that there was no limited purpose account set up, and the funds were coming from the full-purpose FSA.

    Prior to this, they had a rule set up in their system, which prevented the enrollment. The only reason they allowed the election to pass was because they thought it was a limited purpose account.

    We are currently working with the carrier to set up the limited purpose account so this will be corrected going forward.

    The employer did instruct the employee at the time that the FSA was to be used for dental and vision only. How should we advise the client for what occurred in 2023?


    employees "refusing to share SSN"

    AlbanyConsultant
    By AlbanyConsultant,

    We're taking over a plan with deferrals and SHM only, and the sponsor is refusing to provide us with the SSN of participants who are not deferring.  They initially didn't want to give us ANY data on them, saying that we didn't need it (sigh), but they are really digging their heels in with the SSNs.  "We've asked the employees, and they don't want us to provide them".

    Is there an argument that we MUST get them?  Obviously, we need some kind of entry to put into our pension software... but I suppose that could be a dummy number.  I don't like the sound of that.

    I've outlined the main reasons that we would need the SSN (consistency in tracking, possible corrections, possible use of fund platform notice distribution services, it's just What It Is), but I have to admit that if I was an obstinate employer, they aren't exactly convincing that there's nothing a specific kind of random identifier number couldn't handle just as well.

    Any suggestions? Thanks.


    Relief for Missed RMDs Due to IRA Beneficiary Dispute

    Plan Doc
    By Plan Doc,

    An IRA owner who had begun receiving required minimum distributions (RMDs) during her lifetime died, following which a dispute ensued among beneficiary claimants to the IRA.  Litigation commenced in 2023 under an interpleader action by custodian bank, involving the decedent's 3 children on the one hand and her late husband's 2 children from a prior marriage on the other.  The latter had earlier in the IRA owner's lifetime been designated as co-beneficiaries of the IRA along with decedent's children.  However, husband's 2 children were removed as co-beneficiaries in an asserted "deathbed" change to the IRA owner's beneficiary designation wrought by alleged undue influence of her daughter at a time when the owner supposedly lacked capacity to make such a change.

    Custodian bank advised the feuding beneficiary claimants that payment of the 2023 RMD needed to be made by 12/31/2023, suggesting the claimants work out an agreement under which the RMD would be distributed to one or more of them so as to avoid a missed RMD, with the distribution amount being reapportioned later, once the litigation concluded and the rightful beneficiaries were determined.  No agreement was reached, so the RMD wasn't paid.  Trial is scheduled for late 2024, and it appears probable that the case will not be resolved before 2025, raising the prospect of a missed RMD for 2024.

    For the missed 2023 RMD, does it seem likely that the IRS will grant relief from any penalties on the basis of reasonable cause?  Is it possible/advisable to seek a private letter ruling from IRS for the anticipated failure to distribute the 2024 RMD, as the beneficiary claimants again will probably not agree on the disposition of the RMD?

    Any other thoughts about how to resolve this RMD conundrum?

     


    Employer contribution tax credit SECURE 2.0, Form 8881

    justanotheradmin
    By justanotheradmin,

    Did anyone else see this?! Maybe I'm late to the party!

    https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i8881

    The way the $1,000 cap and yearly phase out is being applied is different than I understood. In a good way!

    For a small employer(less than 50), if its year 5, and they have given everyone (let's say there are 50) who would be credit eligible individual employer contributions of $4,000, say $200,000 total, then the credit would be $50,000, with the remainder as a deduction for $150,000. That's awesome! 

    My prior (incorrect) understanding was that the $1,000 cap was applied first, before any phase downs / phase outs. Sounds like that is not the case! I would have though for my example only $12,500 would be the credit. The way I am reading the instructions it would be the $50,000. Anyone else agree? disagree? 


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