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The accrued benefits (balances) the participants see on their statements (or a participant website) are hypothetical. The actual amount of $$ invested in the plan's trust is different, and rarely exactly equals the accrued benefits. Unless the plan's document calls for something more frequent than annual (some do say monthly or quarterly), the hypothetical balances only would be updated once a year. The amount the employer deposits - has nothing to do with how much interest is credited and when, to the participant's accrued benefit hypo balance. Actual earnings - is not a common plan design for cash balance plans for a variety of reasons - what interest credit rate does the CB document say? There is not recordkeeping in the same sense that there would be for a 401(k) or 403(b) plan.
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Sponsor has a 401(k) plan with an EACA provision. They want to change the plan to be profit sharing only, effective as soon as possible. How much notice is required to be given? I know 30-90 days is best practice - but is that required? Could they make the amendment effective tomorrow?
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Does any one work on pension plans that cover both US locations(US Citizens only) and Canada locations (with Canadian citizens/employees only)? I know it is allowed and possible, and that there would typically need to be provisions that may apply to ONLY the Canada employees, and ONLY US employees. There is an employer that sponsors a traditional DB plan, it is PBGC covered, and they are interested in expending the pension benefits to include their Canadian employees. Does anyone have some technical reading they can recommend? or if you do this kind of work do you have suggestions? TPAs I can suggest they look at that do this kind of niche work? Other thoughts?
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Participating employer withdraws from the PEP
justanotheradmin replied to justatester's topic in MEP and PEP Issues
not answering your question - but why move to the SEP? does the PEP not allow outright terminations for an employer? -
Do I have this right? Deferrals were withheld from pay that shouldn't have been, and were sent in to that employee's SIMPLE IRA. All affected paydates are in calendar year 2026. Some questions: Is the employee okay with those deferrals as is, even though they are larger than intended? Would they sign a retroactive deferral election form for the employer to keep in their files as part of a self correction? And then they can sign a deferral election now changing prospective deferral amounts downward or to zero if they don't want to defer as much for the remainder of the year. Is the employer going to correct those paydates to show only the correct deferral amounts withheld? If so - then there is an advanced deposit of employer money in the person's SIMPLE IRA. It isn't pre-tax deferrals that would be distributed with a 1099-R to the employee as a standard correction. If there is an advanced/unexpected/misdirected deposit of employer dollars - can it stay in there? EPCRS corrections generally favor amounts staying in the the account if the amounts aren't large, the person is a NHCE and it does not take away from other participants.
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Using own forfeiture for own top heavy min
justanotheradmin replied to TPApril's topic in 401(k) Plans
I am sure. As of 12/31/2025 the forfeiture account does not have those dollars in it, not accrued or as actual cash. They are not available to be allocated as part of the benefits in the trust since they do not exist for the year in which you are accruing them for (using them for). If you don't believe me, I suggest you read the section of the plan's document that governs the use of forfeitures. If it addresses them clearly, it will say that forfeitures are to be used in the year in which they occur (2026) or the year following ( 2027) or some combination thereof, depending on that plan's specific provisions. This usage mirrors the various rules that apply to accruals in a trust, allocation of dollars, holding accounts, and the specific exception that grants forfeiture dollars a little more flexibility than regular assets in a trust, but there are still restrictions and rules that must be adhered to for the trust to maintain its tax-qualified status. -
401k Plan Referral with No Plan Document In Place
justanotheradmin replied to Emily's topic in 401(k) Plans
If they are keen on keeping the plan, I have seen successful VCP for instances where the initial plan document was missing completely. A lot of supporting documentation was required to satisfy the IRS, which those plans had. Such as asset statements, filed Form 5500s etc. Getting an ERISA attorney is the right step. -
see the paragraphs about Safe Harbor Notices https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/mid-year-changes-to-safe-harbor-plans-or-safe-harbor-notices I'm sure you've thought about these in relation to the compensation change - but in case not: will §414(s) compensation testing pass? is the cutback allowed? I know you asked questions on another post. so hopefully you were able to get the information you need to to do an analysis for the plan prior to any amendment being done
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Mid-Year Change for 401(k) Safe Harbor
justanotheradmin replied to Transplant's topic in 401(k) Plans
I don't know where that quote comes from. But changes in compensation that INCREASE safe harbor match aren't even generally allowed unless very specific parameters are met. I don't see how changes in the plan's definition of compensation to decrease the safe harbor match are permitted if they affect the NHCE. https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/mid-year-changes-to-safe-harbor-plans-or-safe-harbor-notices " Prohibited mid-year changes The Notice provides the following list of “prohibited mid-year changes” that may not be made to a safe harbor plan, unless the change is required by applicable law or court decision. A mid-year change increasing the years of service for the vesting schedule for a safe harbor plan consisting of a Qualified Automatic Contribution Arrangement (QACA); A mid-year change to reduce or narrow the group of employees eligible to receive safe harbor contributions; however, this does not limit the ability of the employer to amend a plan mid-year to change eligibility service crediting rules or entry date rules for employees who have not yet become eligible to receive safe harbor contributions; A mid-year change to the type of safe harbor, for example, a change from a traditional safe harbor to a QACA, or vice versa; A mid-year change to modify (or add) a formula used to determine matching contributions (or the definition of compensation used to determine matching contributions) if the change increases the amount of matching contributions, or to permit discretionary matching contributions. However, a plan may make such a mid-year change if: the change is adopted at least 3 months before the end of the plan year, the change is made retroactive for the entire plan year, and the plan sponsor gives an updated safe harbor notice and additional election opportunities to each employee otherwise required to be provided a safe harbor notice at least 3 months prior to the end of the plan year. Other applicable law also may affect the permissibility of mid-year changes, including, for example, IRC Section 411(d)(6) (anti-cutback restrictions), IRC Section 401(a)(4) (nondiscrimination restrictions), and Reg. Section 1.401(k)-1(b)(3) (anti-abuse provisions)." -
Excess Contribution - Safe Match must be Funded
justanotheradmin replied to Vlad401k's topic in 401(k) Plans
https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/fixing-common-plan-mistakes-failure-to-limit-contributions-for-a-participant Step 1: Distribute unmatched elective salary deferral contributions (adjusted for earnings) to the affected participant. If any excess remains, proceed to Step 2. Step 2: Distribute elective salary deferral contributions (adjusted for earnings) that are matched, and forfeit related employer matching contributions (adjusted for earnings). If any excess remains, proceed to Step 3. Step 3: Forfeit employer profit-sharing contributions until the annual additions longer exceed the 415(c) limits. The employer should report the corrective distribution made to the participant on Form 1099-R. The participant should include the distribution as income but does not have to pay the 10% additional tax on early distributions under IRC Section 72(t). The participant may not rollover the corrective distribution to another qualified plan or to an IRA. The plan sponsor should transfer the forfeited employer contributions (profit-sharing or matching) to an unallocated plan account. These amounts are used to reduce employer contributions in subsequent years. -
controlled group question
justanotheradmin replied to Santo Gold's topic in Retirement Plans in General
Conceptually, think of the H/W as one person. Don't treat them as two separate individuals. New Combined Person owns 100% of Company A, and New Combined Person also owns 45% of Company B. Identical ownership is only 45% -
Using own forfeiture for own top heavy min
justanotheradmin replied to TPApril's topic in 401(k) Plans
Can you clarify the timeline? Is this right? Person terminates in 2026, take a distribution in 2026, non-vested portion of account forfeited in 2026. Employer contribution, including top heavy minimum being made for 2025. If that is the case - then I would say no. The plan can't allocate forfeiture or use forfeiture towards a year prior to the year in which the forfeiture occurs.
