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    Valuation & Distribution Timing

    Dazednconfused
    By Dazednconfused,

    Hi,

    Plan has participant directed accounts for deferrals and pooled for Er contributions. Plan document states distributions when admin. feasible. Valuation is done yearly for pooled Er funds. Is there any issues with doing a quarterly valuation when there are distribution requests (and no valuation for quarters that do not have distributions)?

    Thanks!


    MORTALITY TABLE?

    AndyH
    By AndyH,

    I'm looking at a 1989 Multiemployer DB document. It says that actuarial equivalency is based on "1951 GAT projected to 1964"

    Can anyone translate what that might be or if such a thing existed and if so where it might be locatable?


    Distribution to foreign citizen

    ombskid
    By ombskid,

    Plan is sponsored by US company owned by a foreign company. French citizen that has been working at US company and participating in the 401k is leaving the US company and returning to France to work for the "mother" company.

    I believe there are no issues with making a distribution.

    What are the tax/rollover issues for a foreign citizen (French) to take a rollover? Is there a treaty that determines when the distribution is taxed or if there is a special provision for foreigners?


    Nonamender Governmental Plans - EPCRS Filings

    Guest ERISAQUEEN
    By Guest ERISAQUEEN,

    Has the IRS published statistics or related information on the number of nonamender governmental plans filing under the EPCRS Program?

    Have you utilized the EPCRS Program for a nonamender governmental plan? If so, what type of entity sponsored the plan (e.g., state government, municipality, state agency, etc.).


    Happy Towel Day

    GMK
    By GMK,

    Here's to Doug Adams.

    and remember, Don't Panic.


    5500-SF; lines 8f and 8g

    Guest Karen Kuehlhorn
    By Guest Karen Kuehlhorn,

    Nationwide has provided Schedule C information including payments to NW, TPA and financial advisor. Are preparers of 5500-SF for small plans including the total of all of these payments on 8f? Thank you.


    Schedule A - Post Merger - Nontransferred Assets

    JRG
    By JRG,

    A client in 2009 had merged the 401k plan of a subsidiary into the Parent company's 401k plan. The subsidiary 401k plan was funded in part by a GAC, which contained some assets (say 20%) which could not be liquidated at the time of the merger, and thus, the GAC still exists outside of the Parent 401k Trust (the liquid assets were liquidated and transferred to the Parent 401k).

    Should the subsidiary 401k plan's GAC be reported on Schedule A for the Parent 401k's Form 5500? Are there any special issues we should be aware of?

    Thanks.


    Self directed plan

    Guest Tony Ramsey
    By Guest Tony Ramsey,

    hello all!

    We have a client who set up a 401k profit sharing plan.about 30 participants.They asked that we assist with establishment of accounts at Schwab and want each participant to complete an application to establish their own self directed account.The money will likely start in the participant's money market type account and then be available for each of them to invest as they choose (i.e. no menu of investment options) and access on-line just as if they had their own savings account with Schwab.

    Is this a permissible type of self directed arrangement?

    thanks!


    Earnings on Late Deposits of 401(k) Deferrals

    commishvp
    By commishvp,

    If not doing a VFCP filing and simply putting in lost earnings and filing Form 5330 how are the earnings calculated?

    Would the plan still have to use the "Old VFCP" method comparing the highest returning fund to the IRS underpayment rate?

    Was the elimination of the highest return option an incentive to get Plans to file under the VFCP?

    How are others handiling this situation in practice?

    Comments are apprecitated.

    Thanks,


    Freezing a 403(b) Plan - Vesting Required?

    Guest cphcs
    By Guest cphcs,

    If a 403(b) plan is frozen, must participants be vested in any nonvested matching and nonelective employer contributions in the same way that participants must become vested in a frozen qualified profit sharing plan?


    Broker Idea

    tuni88
    By tuni88,

    We are looking into freezing our small-ish DB plan and then terminating it when we have enough money in the plan to be able to purchase annuities and close it out once and for all. Our actuary tells us we're currently short of the amount needed to do that and that annual contributions will need to continue.

    A broker approached me and said we could buy annuities now in the name of the plan, stop making contributions, and just allow the amount on the annuities to build for a few years and then terminate. Is there likely to be a catch? I presume we'd be far over-paying for the annuities. Or something.

    What's this guy talking about?


    Contribution Crediting Rules under Section 415

    Guest CharlieLaur
    By Guest CharlieLaur,

    Subchapter-S corporation on extension for 2008 until 9/15/2009.

    Client deposits discretionary employer contribution on 9/15/2009.

    For reasons unknown, the safe-harbor match is not deposited until 11/15/2009.

    Principals usually receive the maximum annual additions under IRC Section 415.

    As I understand the situation, the amount of the safe-harbor match is treated as an annual addition for 12/31/2009 rather than for 12/31/2008. Assuming that the safe-harbor match for 2008 (deposited on 11/15/2009) was $9,200 for Charlie Shareholder, his maximum “new” contribution for 12/31/2009 (excluding the 2008 safe-harbor match) would be equal to $39,800 rather than the normal $49,000.

    Are there any exceptions to the IRC Section 415 contribution crediting rules that would help in this situation?

    Any other thoughts?

    Thanks for your consideration of this problem.

    Charlie Laur


    what to say in a 402(f) notice if the sender doesn't know whether the plan is tax-qualified?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    I'd like to see what BenefitsLink people think about the following hypothetical situation.

    A person serves as an administrator of a retirement plan for the limited purpose of instructing the recordkeeper and insurer to pay final distributions. The former employer ceased operations many years ago. If the employer kept records of the plan's administration, they are long gone. The termination administrator, based on her experiences, suspects that the plan might be tax-disqualified, but lacks evidence to prove or disprove whether the plan is qualified.

    Given this uncertainty, the termination administrator does not want to send a standard 402(f) notice because she does not want to take responsibility for even an implied statement that the plan is tax-qualified. Rather, the administrator would prefer to edit the notice, adding the following:

    This notice describes Federal income tax treatments and rollover opportunities that could apply if the Plan qualifies for tax treatment under Internal Revenue Code section 401(a). The termination administrator will obey the Plan's terms that allow you to instruct that your distribution be paid to an eligible retirement plan. However, the termination administrator does not know whether the Plan is tax-qualified. If the Plan is not tax-qualified, this notice's explanations of Federal income tax treatments and rollovers would be incorrect.

    Assuming that the termination administrator isn't worried about dealing with inquiries (she'd answer them all by saying that the notice speaks for itself), are there downsides to using the disclaimer and warning?


    New Benefit Form after Participant Terminated

    JRG
    By JRG,

    Client has a DB plan and a Participant left employment 10 years ago, but has a vested benefit. At the time of termination the plan's only form of benefit was an annuity. 3 years ago the Plan was amended to permit participants to receive a lump-sum. Participant is about to become age 65 and wants to elect a lump-sum.

    My question is can the participant who terminated 10 yrs ago elect to receive their benefit in a lump-sum? Or do they have to receive an annuity based on the plan provisions at the time of termination?

    Thanks.


    5500sf

    Guest Peggy806
    By Guest Peggy806,

    Is everyone leaving line 11 blank or checking no when the plan isn't subject to the minimum funding requirements?


    Special Catch Up

    Randy Watson
    By Randy Watson,

    The special catch up appears to increase the contribution limit for the last 3 years prior to normal retirement age. Is this an employee based catch up like the age 50 catch up? In other words, can the amounts that relate to the special catch up be non-elective contributions or must they be salary deferrals? I don't have a lot of experience with 457(b)s, so please don't bash me!


    Swing or Ballroom dancing in Chicago on June 16th or 17th?

    Jim Chad
    By Jim Chad,

    Any swing or ballroom dancers out there? I will be in Chicago for the Great Lakes Benefits Conference and ERPA Conference in June. I am looking for a dance event for Wednesday, June 16th or or Thursday June 17th. Does anyone know of anywhere reasonably close to downtown?


    E-FAST 5500

    JAY21
    By JAY21,

    Is anyone far enough along with E-FAST to have an opinion on whether the Schedule SB attachments "label" requirements (e.g., Line 19c, Plan Name, Plan No, EIN#, etc....) can be satisfied by simply "checking" the pre-labelled boxes in the E-FAST attachment menu (e.g., summary of plan provisions).

    -OR-

    Do we still need to have all the info (Line #, EIN#, Plan Name) pre-printed on each attachment itself PLUS then check the appropriate pre-lablled attachment from the E-FAST attachment menu.

    Seems to me if the pdf attachment is going along with the 5500 E-FAST filing and the pre-labelled box is checked identifying the attachment type that should be sufficient, but maybe I'm wrong.

    Some of the attachments are not easily and completely labelled as needed from our software so I'm hoping the E-FAST pre-labelled attachment menu would be sufficient. Thoughts ?


    Non Amender VCP

    Scuba 401
    By Scuba 401,

    if the sponsor has never amended the plan which includes a period of many law changes and 3 remedial amendment period would you just send the IRS the most recent EGTRRA document or would they request that you recreate all the amendments?


    401(k) to 403(b)

    R. Butler
    By R. Butler,

    We have 2 plan sponsors who are terminating their 401(k) plans in favor of 403(b) plans. Both plans sponsors are inquiring about simply transferring the assets from the 401(k) to the 403(b) without giving the participants an opportunity to receive a distribution. I don't see that it is permissable, but wanted to double check.

    Thanks in advance for any guidance.


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