Does anyone know of a prototype plan document provider that can provide a prototype for a governmental 401(a) defined contribution plan (or a template in prototype format for such a plan (i.e., with a basic plan document and adoption agreement), even if not pre-approved by the IRS)? Thanks for any assistance.

DB guy asking 401k questions........

Plan is a Safe Harbor 401k with the basic match contribution. The Plan Administrator appears to be matching per payroll period with no True Ups at year end. If a participant is at the max comp level and maxes out his deferral for 2009 (not catch up eligible), is there any way that he can be allowed to receive a SHMAC of $11,339?

By my calc's 4% of $245k is $9,800.

In the past we've completed the 8109-B coupon and instructed the client to deposit the federal tax withholding with the bank that they have their business checking account with; however in the area that we're in most all of the local banks are now refusing to accept the funds (some will if it's done electronically but most of our clients don't want to go this route). Has anyone else run into this? Any suggestions? We've had some of our terminating plans mail in the check to the address on the back of the coupon just to get the funds in.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I often get plans that fail the ADP test, but there are no refunds because of catch-ups.

If this happens to one of your plans, to you tell the ER the test fails but there is no refund? Or do you just say the plan passes?

Here is one I haven't seen before. A 401(k) plan terminates as of 5/1/2010. The ADP test is run and an HCE who had already contributed $16,500 must take back $11,000 of that deferral. He is leaving to go work for another company who has a 401(k) plan with no waiting period. I can find nothing that would allow them to make any contributions to his new company's 401(k) plan. It's a shame, because if he had only contributed a few grand, he wouldn't be having this problem. But he likes to put it all in as early as possible and historically has had to take little or nothing back.

Anyone disagree?

Tim

I am in the process of putting together a wrap document for all of our Sect. 125 plans. Currently, our company offers AFLAC deductions on a pre-tax basis, thus making it a part of 125. If I include the AFLAC info in a the Wrap document, does it then become liable for COBRA and all other ERISA requirements? I have seen conflicting opinions on this.

Any help is appreciated?

Anyone else with AFLAC on a pretax basis and a wrap doucment? How were you advised to structure things?

TIA

What if you have a missing participant from a terminated plan (check was returned). Participant is no longer in the United States.

The balance is under $500.00. What do you do with the funds? Can you open IRA's under $500.00? Doesnt seem to make sense.

Thanks

We, as TPA, work with different investment providers. Some track loans, some just invest loan repayments when told to do so.

What happens if someone pays off a loan, but the ER still send in payments every week and the money is invested in the trust?

Could that liberally be though of as a Mistake of Fact, and the money returned to the ER to then be given tot he participant? Or, should the money be forfeited and the ER pays the participant outside the plan?

Hey Guys,

Could someone please provide the reference for the Regs on No Assets, No 5500 Required? I have a plan w/a 09/01/09 effective date but because the owner became ill did not hold open enrollment or fund their new plan last year. We'll be changing the effective date to 2010 and I need to reference the Regs for the client.

Thanks!

Because of funding restrictions, all lump sums distributed under a particular DB Plan in 2009 represented only 50% of the total benefit.

The instructions to line 3 Schedule R indicate, "Line 3. Enter the number of living or deceased participants whose benefits under the plan were distributed during the plan year in the form of a single sum distribution."

Thus, a fundamentalist reading of the Schedule R instructions would suggest "0" is the appropriate entry.

How have practitioners approached this question?

When a company terminates a plan and purchases private annuities for plan participants, who is responsible if a benefit was miscalculated? The company did the original calculation (25 years ago) and the participant's pension has been in pay status since that time. He only recently learned a mistake may have been made.

Thanks!

The ERISA Outline Book includes a reminder that excess deferrals not refunded by April 15 require some other distributable event to be paid out. The EPCRS correction says it is for the excess to be distributed, but doesn't mention waiting for a distributable event.

For a client who called after April 15 saying they just learned of the excess, what does one advise about timing of the distribution?

I posted this on ira site too

to my knowledge a roth ira cannot be rolled into a defined benefit plan (or a profit sharing plan for that matter). Is that correct? I realize it makes no sense to roll a roth into a qual plan but some people seem to think it is a good idea to roll into a qual plan for protection against crediters.

thanks

I know that DBk is coming out soon for small employers, but has anyone ever seen a larger employer (over 500 lives) maintain a single trust for their 401(k) and their DB plan?

Alternativley, has anyone ever worked with a DB plan that accepted 401(k) rollovers?

Designing a NQ Plan to replace a frozen DB benefit. Client is asking us to get information about personal assets of the participants to off-set the benefit that will be funded by company contributions to NQ Plan. We understand the logic behind reducing NQ benefit by social security, or other benefit programs of the employer. However, we think is is unusual to essentially penalize those who have aggresively and histroically saved for themselves, and have the company make up for the bad habits of those who have saved nothing or little personally.

Looking for some input from the benefits community about whether any of you have ever seen such an offset, and how common these may be. Anyone??

How much leeway (if any) do you have to alter (or restrict) the definitions of change in control as set forth in the regs? I am reviewed a NQDC plan which sets forth the reg definitions but then adds language that says a change in control won't be deemed to occur if the value of the business at the time of the transaction does not exceed a certain amount. Is this permissible?

Which method is preferred for reporting income for a NQDC - Rabbi Trust?

Why?

I am trying to find in ERISA how it defines the due date for a profit sharing contribution for a calendar year plan. I'm not asking about the deductibility rules (regarding extensions on corporate or 5558's). What does ERISA define for the 5500 as the rule for the deposit date? Is it October 15th?

I have a plan that provides for QPSA, small amount cash-outs, QJSA and life annuity only. It seems I must add an Optional Joint and Survivor Annuity (which I did in the PPA amendment). Now, revisiting the doc for a cycle E filing I think I need to add notice language and spousal consent. Any way around this? Thanks.

I'm thinking that as long as the 401(k) plan passes coverage, they can exclude the EEs from the for-profit businesses. But as more and more companies are added, they will no longer pass coverage if they continue to exclude that group of EEs. Are there other plan design options that they could consider? Or will they just have to bite the bullet and include the EEs from the for-profit businesses once they fail the coverage test?