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    Top Heavy Minimum Due - and Earnings?

    PMC
    By PMC,

    Plan is top heavy for years 2004 thru 2007 and the Employer failed to make contributions in the amount to satisfy the top heavy minimum. The Employer now wants to make the top heavy minimum for those years.

    Since there is no absolute deadline for making a top heavy minimum can they ever be considered "late." If they are not considered late, must the top heavy contributions due be adjusted for earnings (and I assume losses)? What would the starting date be for determining earnings? For example if the t-h contribution was for the 2004 year, would earnings be calculated from say the tax filing date for the 2004 year up until the time the contribution is made to the Plan?


    Late Filing of 5500-EZ

    Guest scott34
    By Guest scott34,

    Our client recently received a CP-403 notice from the IRS stating that her husband, who past away in October of 2007, never filed a 5500-EZ for the plan year ending 12/31/06. He had filed returns in the past and the total value of the plan at 12/31/06 was over $100k. She has never had any envolvement with the returns and has no idea why her late husband did not file. Does anyone have a idea of how we can avoid IRS penalties? Any suggestions on a good reasonable cause?

    Thanks.


    Deceased Participant - Spouse's Options

    KateSmithPA
    By KateSmithPA,

    61 year old participant dies leaving a benefit of about $400,000. 47 year old spouse is sole beneficiary. In the following few months, she has withdrawn about $138,000, most of it going to children and who knows what. Broker would like to help her protect what is left (really).

    From a tax aspect, may she roll the balance of the account into her own IRA and begin taking substantially equal installments and avoid the 10% penalty? I believe she can roll into an inherited IRA and withdraw without the penalty but she may run into the RMD rules sooner than later.

    Thank you.

    Kate Smith


    Asset sale and merger

    Guest HaleyD
    By Guest HaleyD,

    Company A (large national co.) ownes company B. Company B acquires company C through asset sale. Company B also owns Company D which will merge with company C to become Newco. All companies have 401(k) plans which Newco can adopt or merge assets into. If Newco continues with Company C existing plan, TPA says it will only require an Amendment to plan to change name, tax ID, waive 90 day waiting period for Company D employees.

    Assuming Company C is the one chosen, given the new name & tax ID, can current participants be given the right to take a distribution at time of transition? What are employee rights at a time like this?

    If Newco goes with either Company A or B plans, can Newco force all existing participants in C & D to merge into the chosen plan?

    From what I have read, if the plan is terminated, employees have option of distribution or rollover into qualified plan. But if plans merge, the rules change? How does same desk rules apply here.

    I am very new at this and have been asked to participate in the discussions as the "employee voice" and just want to make sure I have a full understanding.

    Thanks in advance for your help! :lol:


    Loan discrimination

    Guest P Williamson
    By Guest P Williamson,

    Is it permissible for a loan policy to limit plan loans to only fully vested participants?


    Benefits Rights and Features

    Guest Pension Girl
    By Guest Pension Girl,

    Does having two matching formulas, one with allocation conditions, cause BRF testing due to different rates created by the allocation conditions?

    For example, plan has payroll by payroll match of lets say 50% up to 5% of pay, no allocation conditions. Then plan has a discretionary match for anyone employed on the last day. Lets say the formula is 50% of pay up to 6% contributed. Under the first formula, coverage will be passed, but not the second formula. Do you apply one ACP test to both matches, and then BRF test the rates, or just do a coverage test on the second match?

    Any help would be appreciated!


    Salary Deferral Plan - Security or not?

    Guest DDahl
    By Guest DDahl,

    I was wondering whether anyone knows of a good resource that discusses the security law issues of nonqualified deferred compensation plans? I have the Corporate BNA entitled "Securities Law Aspects of Employee Benefit Plans" authored by Mr. Maldonado right in front of me but it seems to focus more on qualified plans.

    The issue is whether a salary deferral plan for executives which allows the participants to elect to forego a portion of their annual salaries, have such amounts placed in a rabbi trust or some other vehicle, and then have such amounts paid to them at some specified time in the future (death, disability, separation from service) will be deemed an offering of securities such that an exemption is required.

    No employer securities would be involved in the arrangement. The cash placed in the rabbi trust would probably be invested in mutual funds.

    Any thoughts?


    Coverting IRA distribution to Roth

    Guest chick
    By Guest chick,

    Can I simply convert an IRA distribution to my Roth? I retired this year at age 75. Also may want to convert part of the distribution next year.


    Fiduciary Prudence?

    Guest Spock
    By Guest Spock,

    A DB call center operations function will move from location A to location B. There will be 100% turnover in assigned staff because of the location change (driven by consolidation on the part of the service provider). Would it considered prudent to visit the new call center on site? Would that protect the fiduciaries in any way or demonstrate fiduciary prudence?

    Conversely, do you think not visiting the new call center operation on-site would be imprudent or expose the fiduciaries to any risk?

    The fact that location B is in a very attractive location, especially in January when it would be very nice there and could snowing where I live, is irrelevant.


    Dependent Daycare Question

    SLuskin
    By SLuskin,

    I have a situation where the participant is the child's grandmother. The child is the grandmother's tax dependent and the child's parents are not in the picture.

    The grandmother is employed full time.

    The grandfather, however, is retired, but older. He is not able to take care of a 4 year old at all.

    Can she participate in the dependent daycare account, or is she prohibited because she is married and her husband is not gainfully employed?

    (I personally would never leave a 4 year old with a 70 year old).

    Thank you.


    401(a) or FICA / Social Security Alternative Plans

    Guest sammyg
    By Guest sammyg,

    Can someone explain to me the difference between a 401(a) and a FICA / Social Security Alternative Plan? Doing various searches on the web I cannot find a clear distinction between these. In some cases I'm thinking that a FICA / Social Security Alt Plan is also a 401(a).

    I've noticed that TIAA Cref, Fidelity and other large carriers provide these plans typically to universities, some non-profits. Some plan descriptions explain that their plan mandates participation and the previous employee FICA payment of 6.2% will now become a 7.5% contribution into the new plan thus eliminating Social Security. Other 401a plan descriptions never mention this.

    So, is a FICA / Social Security Alternative Plan an option within a 401(a)? Can this also be an option within a 403(b)?

    Thanks in advance for your time.


    DOL and $12

    ombskid
    By ombskid,

    DOL audited employee deferral contribution for 2006 - 2008 and came up with a penalty for late transmittal of $12. Now they have sent a letter recommending filing 5330 so when they send their findings to IRS in Ogden, we will already have filed. For 15% of that $12.

    Anybody have experience with 5330's for these miniscule amounts? Does IRS really look for small amounts like this?

    Could we donate to our favorite charity instead?


    Plan Termination

    Gary
    By Gary,

    A client has a DB plan that he wants to terminate.

    The plan was effective around 2002 or so.

    Over the years the attorney may or may not have kept up with all required amendments, such as GUST, EGTRRA, PFEA, PPA, HEART, WRERA and so forth.

    My thought is to restate and terminate the plan using the approved Sungard Relius document with all pertinent amendments in the plan and of course the salient plan provisions re: plan formul included, instead of trying to patch the old plan with various amendments.

    The approach of using a Sungard document with their approved and/or current amendments seems like a clean and efficient technique without trying to sort through the old document and its amendments or lack thereof.

    Does this seem like an acceptable approach?

    Thanks.


    COBRA Qualifying Event?

    Randy Watson
    By Randy Watson,

    Is there any commentary or authority on the treatment of an annulment as a COBRA qualifying event (i.e. the same as a divorce)?


    Anyone using Relius daily val

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    We wanted to talk to someone about it, as we are considering doing this in-house to cut-out the expensive middleman (i.e., recordkeeper), particularly on small plans.

    We use relius for admin work right now....

    Please send me an email if you would be willing to talk to us.


    Schedule SB AFTAP (Line 15)

    Andy the Actuary
    By Andy the Actuary,

    Plan's AFTAP was determined without regard to FSCOB on 1/1/2008 and was certified as 147%. This is in accordance with IRC 436(j)(3). Instructions to completing line 15 of Schedule SB, however, indicate that AFTAP should be computed in accordance with IRC 436(j)(2) -- i.e., subtract FSCOB from assets, which in this case would be 57%. My inclination is to show 147% under the assumption that the instruction is inappropriate and than showing 57% suggest all sorts of nasty stuff applies, which don't.

    Note that Schedule SB instructions indicate FTAP, line 14, are to subtract credit balances. AFTAP line 15 is not as clear.

    Any thoughts?


    Excess Contributions

    Andy the Actuary
    By Andy the Actuary,

    Calendar Year Plan has 2008 quarterly contribution requirement of $50,000. 2008 contribution requirement is $300,000. Plan also has substantial FSCOB which could be applied to take care of $300,000 minimum.

    Plan fails to pay $50,000 on 4/15/2008 and 7/15/2008. On October 1, sponsor contributes $300,000. Plan assets decrease 30% over 2008. ERGO, sponsor elects on 4/1/2009 to apply FSCOB to cover $300,000 minimum in 2008 and add $300,000 to PFB and forego pouring $75,000 of FSCOB down the water closet.

    It appears since election to apply FSCOB was made well after quarterly due dates, PBGC should have been notfied of missed quarterlies (at least once).

    Question: In determining excess contributions 1/1/2008, what should be the discount rates? I.e., should 5% penalty apply? I argue "no" since funding obligation was honored effective 1/1/2008 when 4/1/2009 election was made to apply FSCOB. So, PBF 1/1/2009 is simply $300,000 x (1+EIR)^(3/12).

    Comments?

    SEE REVISED POST BELOW


    Prohibited Transaction?

    Guest notapensiongeek
    By Guest notapensiongeek,

    We administer a 401(k) profit sharing plan where the plan sponsor is a real estate agency (corporation). Several of the agents in the office have the opportunity to purchase shares of the corporation. One of the sales agents wants to purchase shares with his account in the 401(k) profit sharing plan (this sales agent is a non-owner and does not have an operational title).

    Does this constitute a prohibited transaction?

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!


    another safe Harbor 401(K)

    thepensionmaven
    By thepensionmaven,

    Can hardship distribution be take from Employer 401K safe harbor contributions?

    Document says yes but insurance company says IRS says no and will not allow.


    Bankruptcy and Safe Harbor Contributions

    Guest gopher2378
    By Guest gopher2378,

    Small employer with 4 employees (1 owner and 3 employees) who were all employed on 12/31/2008. It's time to file the 2008 Form 5500 and make the 2008 3% safe harbor contributions, but the company is out of business and there are no corporate assets. The owner has filed personal Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Do the participants become creditors for their 2008 safe harbor contribution? Do they have to file something with the bankruptcy court?


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