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    Ineligible Participant Profit Sharing Distribution

    J Maes
    By J Maes,

    Hi Folks,

    I believe I have a fairly unique and messy situation that I’m hoping to get opinions on. An annual compliance review was completed by a TPA and they provided a profit sharing calculation for an ineligible participant (who was also terminated). The plan sponsor funded the contribution to said participant and triggered a residual distribution. The transaction was sent to the TPA for review and was approved, even though the participant should (1.) Not have been eligible to receive a contribution and (2.) Should not have been allowed to take a distribution of these funds.

    The plan sponsor has decided that it’s going to be less of a hassle for them to allow this individual to keep the funds as a “bonus” (for a multitude of reasons that don’t need to be explained here). The individual is not an HCE but I still have concerns.

    In my opinion, the plan would still need to be made whole because the assets that went into the plan never should have been segregated from the plan and now, the sponsor is looking at having to fund double the original amount to make the plan whole.

    Here is my question: considering that the TPA provided an online approval of the distribution (to my knowledge, the sponsor was not prompted to provide an online approval), at which point could a TPA be held responsible for a loss like this?

    Ultimately, I know that the sponsor of the plan is responsible for operating the plan but we are in this business because we are the subject expert matters and plan sponsors should be able to rely on their third party providers to help them avoid costly mistakes like this, especially when the third party overlooks important details such as participant eligibility when providing profit sharing calculations.


    Rollover into plan before becoming a participant

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    So, plan allows rollovers into the plan by participants only. Employee rolled money into the plan 2 weeks before entry date.

    Operational violation. I would almost swear I saw something that essentially said, "don't worry about it" but I can't find anything like that. Maybe it was just a pleasant daydream...

    This is an audited plan. If it weren't, I'd be very inclined to ignore it. Although I think it could be corrected via a retroactive corrective amendment, the plan sponsor obviously doesn't want to go that route.

    Am I missing an acceptable alternative to the two choices above?


    Changing Eligibility Requirements

    FishOn
    By FishOn,
    I have a plan that currently has no eligibility  or age requirements.  They would like to amend the plan to require age 21, 6 months of service with 500 hours effective 2/1/2024.
     
    By amending the eligibility criteria, would all under 21 eligible participants be grandfathered and continue being an eligible employee if they were hired before 2/1/2024? Or could they be excluded because they are not 21?

    Marketing

    EJS_TPA
    By EJS_TPA,

    I am looking to start marketing to local advisors and CPA’s as a referral source. Would anyone be willing to share their marketing materials with me? I am looking for some inspiration. 
     

    Thanks!! 


    CARES Act distribution repayment - source?

    WCC
    By WCC,

    I am having trouble finding guidance on this and hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

    Participant took a $100,000 CARES Act distribution in 2020. Proceeds came from:

    • Roth deferral = $50,000
    • Pretax deferral = $25,000
    • Match = $25,000

    Participant makes a repayment of $100,000 in 2023. In to what sources are the funds deposited at the time of repayment? Roth = $50,000, Pretax = $25,000, Match = $25,000? Or Roth Rollover $50,000, Pretax Rollover $50,000? Some other method?

    Thank you


    ESOP Distribution for termed employees - One time distribution or multiple?

    NWhite
    By NWhite,

    Good day, I worked for a company that participated in ESOP and I qualified to receive distributions.  My employment was terminated during COVID.  From how I understood the program to work, is after 5 years, I would begin to receive distributions.  However, it had not been 5 years since my employment was terminated and last year November I got a distribution form.  I took the gamble and completed the form and sent it back with banking information.  And in late December I received a deposit.  The deposit was about 33% of the account’s value.  My question is what that a one time thing, did I forfeit future distributions?  Or since I only received a portion of the balance, will I be able to participate in future distributions?


    Safe harbor 3% Nonelective contribution

    alwaysaquestion
    By alwaysaquestion,

    I have a 12/31/2024 Plan that want to amend the safe Harbor 3% non-elective contribution out of their plan for the plan year being 1/1/2024,  can they amend the plan now to eliminate the  3% safe harbor contribution out of the plan for 2024?


    Basic X-test question....

    Basically
    By Basically,

    Doing a proposal:

    I have this plan... all of the EEs are HCEs except for a couple of NHCEs that don't work more than 1,000 hours (at this point)

    I put the owner in group 1, the other HCEs in group 2 and the NHCEs  in group 3.  (Remember, Group 3 typically don't work 1000 hours so they aren't eligible for the NEC)
    I made the owner max out, gave the other HCEs nothing and as I said, the NHCEs just aren't eligible (at this time).   Ran the general test and it passed.  

    Great huh.... or am I missing something?  

    If I'm not missing anything then all I need to worry about in the future is if an NHCE works more than 1,000 hours they need to get a contribution

    Thanks


    Datair Reporting

    TPAGCNY
    By TPAGCNY,

    Does anyone know if Datair has the capability of running a report that would include book of business demographics such as, Total Assets for active plans, plan type, participant counts and status of plan?


    Medicare Advantage premium reimbursement from GCHRA

    LABenefits
    By LABenefits,

    I'm reviewing an HRA plan document that includes both active employees and retirees as participants.   ACA compliance is through integration with employer's group health plan.   At age 65, retiree group is no longer eligible to participate in employer's group health plan.   No new employer contributions are made to HRA  at age 65 and up, but these retirees can use rolled over account balance to obtain reimbursement for medical expenses and premiums.   Employer is reimbursing retirees for Medicare Advantage premiums.  While reimbursement of premiums for individual market coverage is clearly prohibited in terms of ACA integration rules (Notice 2015-87), is reimbursement of Medicare Advantage premiums considered individual coverage under existing guidance?  Is there any way to argue that this is a permissible arrangement for ACA compliance purposes?  Or any way to argue that the retiree reimbursement provisions can be treated as a separate group health plan thereby utlizing the retiree-only exemption, even though the retirees are referenced in the existing plan and SPD that relies upon group health plan integration?   (Employer has a wrap plan for ERISA reporting/disclosure purposes).  Given the severity of ACA penalties, we're looking for any helpful guidance insight on this issue.  Thanks.


    408(b)(2) notice questions

    Pammie57
    By Pammie57,

    We have a 401k client whose plan funds are in brokerage accounts (each participant has their own - so no pooled);  We do admin. work only for this plan and bill the Employer - not the plan.  Are we responsible for providing this notice or does the brokerage account provider need to disclose fees, etc on such a notice?  Thanks!


    cross tax correction

    PS
    By PS,

    Looking for some help on cross tax plan correction.  For one of the terminating plan the benefit was paid to estate however looks like there was a named beneficiary (spouse).  The check was cut to the deceased estate in 2023 and the spouse reached out in Feb 2024, the spouse wants to rollover the funds to an IRA and wants the account to be made whole.  Since we are in April is there any exceptional rules that we can use to have the tax corrected?  the taxes withheld is $80000. 


    Employee Assistance Programs - DOL / IRS Enforcement Actions

    youngbenefitslawyer
    By youngbenefitslawyer,

    Anyone aware of any DOL or IRS enforcement actions concerning employee assistance programs?  Specifically instances in which the DOL or IRS found that an EAP was not an excepted benefit?  


    1st year, only eligible EE is the owner... 5500EZ?

    Basically
    By Basically,

    Title says it all... the first year of the plan the only employee with 1,000 hours is the owner.  File a form 5500-EZ and then the following year switch to a 5500-SF?


    How does one decide whether a distribution happened (or didn’t) if neither side has evidence?

    Peter Gulia
    By Peter Gulia,

    If a plan’s administrator—following a reasonable record-retention (and destruction) plan—no longer has proof (beyond a presumption of regularity) that a distribution was paid, but the claimant lacks evidence that no distribution was paid, how do these situations resolve?

    If the Employee Benefits Security Administration opens an inquiry, what does EBSA ask for? And if the response is no records remain, do they close the file?

    Do any of these claimants bring a lawsuit?

    Something else?


    Can EPCRS be used for a late Profit Sharing Contribution?

    Dougsbpc
    By Dougsbpc,

    I know a profit-sharing contribution is discretionary and is not required to be funded.

    Have a client with a 401(k) Profit Sharing Plan where they forgot to fund the profit-sharing contribution for the plan year ended 12/31/2022.

    They have funded a 10% of salary profit sharing contribution for the past 20 years every year and would like to make up the missed contribution now. Is there anything under voluntary correction or self-correction that would allow the contribution to be funded now but allocated based on 2022 data? The problem with just funding double the normal contribution now is that there were about 10 participants who terminated employment in 2022 and were entitled to a profit-sharing contribution then. They would not receive any contribution now if it had to be based on 2023-year salary.

    Thanks.


    purchasing service credit

    conniebrazil
    By conniebrazil,

    I was wondering if this a good idea to buy because i am retired goal is 2035 i started wok in 2017 i want see if i can retired before that.


    No Payout

    prjrrr
    By prjrrr,

    I had a pension from many years ago. The company was bought and sold a few times.  When I tried to collect it in 2023, I was told that I received a payout (under $5000) in May of 2001.  I never received said payout.  I obtained my 2001 tax transcript from the IRS and my wage statement from my employer of that year.  Clearly shows a 1099R was never issued and the only income I received that year was from my W2.  Pension administrator has never been able to show any documentation that the payout actually occurred.  We are in appeal now.  Just wondering if anyone else has had a situation similar to mine and what the out come was. 

     

    Thanks


    Allocation of Contribution

    Dougsbpc
    By Dougsbpc,

    Administer a 401(k) plan that utilizes salary deferral, SH Nonelective and Profit Sharing. Salary deferrals are self-directed and everything else is pooled.

    Sponsor is a corporation. Calendar Year 2022:

    All salary deferrals were funded by 12/31/2022.

    They funded employer contributions of $110,000 in 2022 and forgot to fund all remaining contributions.

    There were Safe Harbor allocations of $110,000 for 2022. So the $110,000 deposit in 2022 covers that.

    They intended to fund a profit sharing contribution of $200,000 for the 2022 year but mistakenly never funded it. They filed by March 15, 2023 and took a deduction for employer contributions of $310,000 ($110,000 SH + $200,000 PS). However, they forgot to fund the final $200,000 deposit.

    They will need to amend their 2022 corporation tax return and show $200,000 of additional taxable income.

    They want to make this up to their participants and deposit the additional $200,000 now. All 2023 year contributions have been funded properly. I believe they could fund the additional $200,000 now and have it along with the 2023 year employer contributions as deductible for 2023 (still under the 25% deductible limit).

    If this is the case, should the $200,000 profit sharing be allocated as of 12/31/2022 (on the 2022 report) or should it be allocated as of 12/31/2022 and combined with the 2023 profit sharing allocation (on the 2023 report)?

    Thanks!


    Collective bargaining agreement (CBA) formula and pre-approved plan document

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    Does anyone know if there is an IRS Revenue Procedure that requires cycle 3 DC plans and Cycle 2 403b plans to hard code the CBA language into the plan document? I know it is in the pre-approved document but trying to find a cite as to why it has to be. Appreciate any insight. Thanks!


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