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    LPTP Question - Age Requirement

    Gilmore
    By Gilmore,

    A 401k plan's eligibility requirements are age 18 and One Year of Service.  Let's say an employee without a Year of Service earns 500 hours in 2021, 2022, and 2023, is age 18 on January 1, 2024.  Is the plan permitted to continue to exclude the employee until after they have attained age 21, or does the plan's age 18 requirement apply for purposes of the LTPT rules.

    Thank you.


    Schedule SB for disqualified plan?

    PensionPro
    By PensionPro,

    The IRS entered into a closing agreement with plan sponsor agreeing to treat their DB plan as disqualified.  Plan sponsor filed Form 5500 with an explanation stating the Sched SB is not required due to the provisions of the closing agreement.  The IRS is threatening penalties for non-filing of Sched SB.  Based on the instructions and the regs is a Sched SB required for a disqualified plan?  Thanks!


    5500 SF to 5500EZ

    FishOn
    By FishOn,

    We have a SH plan where the business has sold. The employees now work for new company and all have rolled over to the new company's plan.  Only the former owner remains and wants to keep the plan - so it is essentially back to being a soloK next year for 2024.  I have reviewed the instructions for the 5500SF and EZ and only see the requirements for being eligible to file 5500EZ.  Does the owner have to keep filing 5500SF or can he start filing 5500EZ?


    Salary Reduction for 401k SH Match

    TN CPA
    By TN CPA,

    Hello - I have a client with an enhanced safe-harbor match 401k plan ($1 for $1 up to 6%.)   When negotiating salary contracts for new employees, the client wanted to tell some employees (none are excluded) that their negotiated salary will be reduced by the 6% safe-harbor match as well as the 6% deferral if they sign up for the plan.  I told them they can not do that, and as there's not rhyme or reason to the employees that the plan sponsor wants this to affect, it can't really be fixed by excluding a class or some other document provision.  The client asked me where these rules are written and to provide in writing.  I can't seem to find anything that specifically says a plan sponsor can't reduce an employee's pay in order to receive an employer contribution.  (Obviously the salary is reduced by employee deferrals.)  Any help with written guidance would be appreciated.


    Catch up contributions at a previous employer with short limitation year

    ERISA-Bubs
    By ERISA-Bubs,

    A previous employer (whom we acquired, but didn't take on their 401(k)) had a short limitation year, and, thus, a small 415(c) limit.  Accordingly, a few employees hit the 415(c) Limit and the previous employer reclassified some as "catch-up" (even though they hadn't hit their deferral limit) so they could max out on 415.

    I don't think that affects us, but does anyone see any issues?


    Premium Only Plan is Terminating Early - Still NDT???

    Bcompliance2003
    By Bcompliance2003,

    An employer is terminating their POP early (plan runs Jan 1 - Dec 31 ... they're terming it 8/31).  The company itself is completely dissolving and there will not be any employees left.  Do they still have to conduct the POP non-discrimination testing before the plan is dissolved?  


    Hardship distributions and definition of child

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    Under the IRS hardship distribution "safe harbor reasons", one safe harbor reason is for "Burial or Funeral Expenses". Payments for burial or funeral expenses for the employee's deceased parent, spouse, children, or dependents. What is the definition of children - for examine is it limited to biological and legally adopted children. Or would a stepchild qualify. Assume the stepchild is not the primary beneficiary. Is there a distinction between your stepchild and your biological child for this purpose? I am not sure if they are a dependent but I can look into that because it would seem a dependent would qualify.

    I appreciate any input.


    What is the 415 limit based on prior plan distribution

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Might be a stupid question, also made up numbers to understand the method.

    Assume all calculations are for 2022.

    73 year old has a prior db distribution, let's say $15,000/month after all actuarial calculations. done many many moons ago.

    The new salary average for 2022 is $24,444.44/month - 100% of compensation limit (385k+290k+305k averaged)

    415 dollar limit is $30,000 - made it up.

    What is his 415 maximum AB?

    1. Is it $24,444.44/month less $15,000/month i.e. $9,444.44?

    OR

    2. Is it $30,000/month less $15,000/month i.e. $15,000/month?

    If it is (1) then the 415 LS would be $9,444.44 * APR @ 2022 417e table @73 @5.5% (assume plan AE assumptions provide much higher LS)?

    What am I missing here to determine max 415 AB and LS?

    Thanks


    Need to know extension timeframe for a terminating plan

    ahasan
    By ahasan,

    Terminating Plan: 01/01/2022 to 10/17/2022

    When is the due date for filing Form 5558 Extension?


    Just Another Senior Moment

    thepensionmaven
    By thepensionmaven,

    We recently took over a safe harbor 401(k)/profit sharing plan, new comparability, grp 1 officers and owners grp 2 all other eligible employees.

    There are 4 participants: owner (100%), spouse, adult son over 21 and one common law employee.

    The plan had passed 401(4) only because the son had not been treated as an HCE.

    Under IRC Section 318, am I off base here, or is not the adult son an HCE as well?

     


    Amendment to add loans and then amend to no longer allow it

    pensionam
    By pensionam,

    I have a plan sponsor who would like to allow a loan for a NHCE participant who has fallen on hard times but is young and doesn't qualify for a "safe harbor" hardship. He would like to amend his plan to allow loans and then has asked how quickly he can amend to no longer allow it.  Is there a general rule of thumb for this?


    Auto enroll permissible withdrawal after termination?

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Participant auto enrolled and had three paychecks worth of auto deferrals taken.  Then she left the company.  Age 31.

    Can she take a permissible withdrawal (plan allows them) and avoid the 10% penalty tax?  Or is that only for in-service withdrawals?


    "clawback" of health insurance payments

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    General question for you attorneys out there who deal with health insurance claims and "clawback" of expenses paid, if a legal settlement is reached

    I was talking with someone a few weeks back, who had sustained some significant injuries in an auto accident that was the fault of the other driver. Her health insurance had paid significant amounts for medical bills. She was in the process of suing the at-fault driver.

    I have heard that many health insurance policies require repayment if the injured party receives a settlement, but I don't know anything about it. I asked her if her attorney had mentioned any such thing, and she admitted she didn't know. So I have two general questions:

    1. Is it in fact a common clause in health insurance policies to have some sort of "clawback" or repayment clause in the event of the injured party receiving a settlement?

    2. If her attorney DIDN'T mention it, if there is such a clause, would this likely be some sort of legal malpractice? I mean, if the settlement is completely or nearly eaten up by clawback and legal fees, why would anyone go through the agony of a lawsuit?

    Again, I freely admit I know nothing about all of this, so I my be asking stupid questions here, in which case, my apologies!


    Economic Benefit and 1099R Reporting for Self Employed

    ErnieG
    By ErnieG,
    Using life insurance in a plan, when you have a sole-proprietor or an owner of a pass-through entity, is there a 1099-R required for the economic benefit (PS 58 cost) for such owner?
     
    One argument I've heard is a sole proprietor, or an owner of a pass-through entity, is not entitled to a deduction for that portion of the premium representing the economic benefit under IRC Section 404.  Accordingly, Treas. Reg. 1.72-16(2) only is applicable if the deduction is allowed under IRC Section 404.  Additionally, the instructions for the 1099-R Box 1 states reporting is required if, "...premiums paid by a trustee or custodian for the cost of current life or other insurance protection..." 

    It would appear, if the sole proprietor or owner of a pass-through entity is not taking a deduction for the economic benefit (therefore paying taxes on such amount), the trustee or custodian is not paying that cost, would a 1099-R need to be issued? 


    Break-in-Service & Eligibility

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    Sorry for all the questions today!

    Have 2 participants in similar situations:

    Participant 1:
    Was eligible for the Plan, having worked 1,000 hours  from 2014-2016
    Worked about 250 hours in 2017
    Had 0 hours from 2018-2021
    Re-hired and worked 900 hours in '22

    So it would appear that there was a 5-year break in service.  Does that mean that this participant needs to re-establish eligibility, or do they become eligible again from the re-hire date?

     

    Participant 2:
    Was eligible for the Plan, having worked 1,000 hours  from 2014-2017
    Had 0 hours from 2018-2021
    Re-hired and worked '22

    This participant only had a 4-year break in service.  I believe this means that they do become eligible immediately upon re-hire, since there was no 5-year break.

     

    Is that accurate for both participants?


    Matching Contributions With Monthly Plan Entry

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    I'm taking over a client and this is the first year I'm operating as the TPA.  They do a match, which is funded after the end of the year.

    Deferrals are allowed immediately

    Matching Contributions, you become eligible 1st of the month following the completion of 1 year of service.

     

    Currently the Plan does not exclude compensation prior to becoming eligible for the Match.  It appears that the previous TPA was matching all deferrals made during the year, as long as the participant became eligible at some point during the year (for example, if someone became eligible on 12/1 all of their deferrals would've been matched up to what the formula allows).

    My question is if that is allowed?  Or are they only allowed to match deferrals made after they would've become eligible for the match?


    Funding Target Calculation

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    Someone is making me think I'm crazy, so I just need to make sure that I'm correct in terms of the formula to calculate the Funding Target.

    Here's what someone is telling me the formula should be:

    Hypothetical Account Balance * (1+Interest Crediting Rate)^20.5/12 * (1+Interest Crediting Rate)^Years to Retirement
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    (1/1+1st Segment Rate) ^ Years to Retirement

     

    My understanding is that the segment rate is determined by the # of Years to Retirement.  Also don't know where they are getting the 20.5/12.  What I thought the calculation was is:

     

    Hypothetical Account BalanceBalance * (1+Interest Crediting Rate)^Years to Retirement
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    1+Segment Rate (dependent on the Years to Retirement) ^ Years to Retirement

     

    Please tell me I'm right and that the other person is crazy :)


    Quarterly Benefit Statements

    dragondon
    By dragondon,

    Is it legal to supply the quarterly benefit statement on the users participant dashboard and not send them via mail or email? Or must all the quarterly benefit statements be sent to the email provided on the account? 


    2024 Catch-Ups as Roth

    msmith
    By msmith,

    Is it feasible for a Plan Sponsor to opt out of Roth Deferrals (and Catch-ups altogether) and advise participants to seek advice on establishing a Roth IRA?


    Distribution in the mail and employer rehired employee

    Kansas401k
    By Kansas401k,

    I believe this is a bit different than the "fire me so I can take my money" fraud. Participant left employer in August, 2022. Earlier this month (August, 2023) participant requested distribution paperwork. Per participant the paperwork is in the mail back to us. 

    Employer emailed today a list of hires and rehires and this employee is included. 

    I tend to think that if the employee is employed when I get the form back, I cannot do the distribution regardless of participant's intent or the date on the form. 

    What am I missing?


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