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    Immediate 401(k) entry, but 1 year wait for s/h match?

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    I know this has been discussed before, but I am having trouble finding the previous posts. Can a 401(k) plan with immediate entry for 401(k) purposes, impose a 1 YOS eligibility requirement before eligibility is met to share in the safe harbor match?

    Thanks


    Death Benefits and Outstanding Loans

    jaxon1225
    By jaxon1225,

    When a participant passes away and has an outstanding loan balance in the plan, what should happen to the loan? Would it be defaulted and taxable to the estate?


    Eligibility rules following change to covered status

    AndyH
    By AndyH,

    If an employee in an excluded class is well over age 21 and has completed well over 1 year of service changes job classification to a status that is covered by a 401(a) plan, when must such employee be allowed to participate? Immediately? Or .....

    1.410(a)-4, which is at least partially obsolete, seems to allow a wait until an entry date that is the lesser of

    "(i) The first day of the first plan year beginning after the date on

    which such employee first satisfied such requirements, or

    (ii) The date 6 months after the date on which he first satisfied

    such requirements"

    where the requirements were being in eligible class, attaining age 21 and completing 1 year of service.

    Thanks for any help.


    New Tax Law - Roth IRA for Everyone?

    Guest wdc
    By Guest wdc,

    Looking for some confirmation here. The new tax law recently passed (Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005) makes Roth IRA conversions available to everyone beginning in 2010. Currently, if your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) is over $100,000 you cannot convert assets to a Roth. Additionally, you cannot contribute to a Roth IRA if you make over $150,000 jointly. What's preventing a couple making more than $150,000 in income from funding a non-deductible IRA each year starting in 2006 and then converting the account to a Roth in 2010? Conceivably you could continue to do this every year - make a non-deductible IRA contribution and then immediately convert it to a Roth IRA. It basically opens up Roth for everyone! You would only have to pay taxes on any earnings on the regular IRA upon conversion if you made an after-tax IRA contribution. You would have thought the gov't would have noticed this loophole but you never know. Am I missing anything????


    Automatic IRA Rollovers

    Guest David M
    By Guest David M,

    Which large national firms are now accepting automatic IRA rollovers from defined benefit plans?

    When last we checked, only small--sometimes start-up--firms were doing this business.


    Starting 401(k) mid year, with BOY effective date

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    A small company was just started in May, 2006, and damn the torpedos, they want a 401(k) plan up and running by 7/1/06.

    They want a calendar year plan, but with a 7/1 effective date, which would make their initial plan year a 6 month SPY. The document software does not seem to support having an intial SPY, and as such, there would have to be an amendment before 1/1/07, indicating the plan year as being from 1/1 - 12/31 after the 2006 plan year.

    This is what they will likely do, but what if we just drafted the document to reflect a 1/1/06 effective date? We would have the "whole plan year we want". The company wasn't around at that time, but would that invalidate the document?


    5500

    Guest kdw13
    By Guest kdw13,

    Is there a phone number or website to find out if you company has filed 5500's for you health plans in the past. Our old CFO did not keep accurate files and I cannot find anyone who can give me this information.

    I appreciate any help you can give me.


    How Do I get started?

    Guest kmh129
    By Guest kmh129,

    Hello, I am 21 years old, and I want to start putting money into a Roth IRA. However, I have no clue as to how to open one. I don't know if I am suppose to go to a bank or an investment company. If I go through a place like Scott Trade do they charge a fee? Please offer me advise. Thank you.


    Excluding union employees from a 401(k)

    betheeg
    By betheeg,

    We have a client that established a 401(k) years ago. A few years later, a union was formed. The union employees are covered for retirement throught he union, so the client wants to know if there is a way to now exclude these union employees from the company 401(k). Can you do this with a simple amendment? And could the now excluded union employees keep their balance in the plan?

    Any thoughts are appreciated....thanks in advance.


    Sch. A/allocated insurance contracts

    Guest ak
    By Guest ak,

    DB plan purchases an allocated contract for half the benefits under the plan. That needs to be reported on the Schedule A for the year of the purchase. Does the Schedule A information still need to be reported in later years, i.e., because the plan has funded the benefits through the contract, or is Sch. A only required for that one year.


    1042 Sale

    Lori Foresz
    By Lori Foresz,

    The ESOP document says all family members will be excluded from the plan starting with the year of the 1042 sale and for the next 9 years. I think I know the answer (or fear the answer) but does this have to apply or is the rule that the family members just can't be allocated any of the 1042 stock?

    If the ESOP is buying the stock outright (with the existing cash in non family member accounts) and then makes a cash contribution, does the law precude the family members from getting a cash contribution under the ESOP?

    Many thanks for all the help.


    Key Employee definition

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    When determining ownership percentages for Key employee (or HCE) determination, do you count just shares owned, or should share options also be considered?


    Who is a family member?

    Lori Foresz
    By Lori Foresz,

    Help! Who is a family member for purposes of the nonallocation of 1042 stock? I can't find my reg book.

    Many many thanks

    Lori


    Welfare Plan 5500 question

    MarZDoates
    By MarZDoates,

    Employer maintains a self-funded health plan for >100 employees.

    The plan is not part of a multi-employer benefit plan that files 5500’s on behalf of all employers.

    They use the services of a TPA

    There is no trust account for the plan. Benefits are paid entirely from the general assets of employer and stop-loss insurance.

    Employees do not make contributions to a trust account. However, employees do pay a monthly "premium" to employer

    Question: Is this subject to the Schedule H and audit requirements?


    Reversion of nondeductible contribution

    Guest saeissler
    By Guest saeissler,

    I am taking over a defined benefit plan. For the 12/31/04 to 12/30/05 plan year the employer made a contribution and then took some back on the grounds that it was nondeductible. The plan document says that nondeductible contributions MUST be returned to the employer. The schedule B was not filed, because assets are less than $100,000. In reviewing the work, I find that the maximum deduction was overstated. So the amount returned to the employer doesn't cover the whole nondeductible contribution. The amount is small - say $500 difference. The client will need to pay an excise tax on the amount of nondeductible contribution remaining.

    I will need to file a Schedule B so that I can attach the required attachment to back up the return of excess contributions. Since I haven't yet filed the schedule B I can change the RPA current liability interest rate to increase the deductible limit, to avoid the excise tax. But can I use any rate in the range even though it looks ridiculous, to come up with the number I want - and if I do that, would I still be right that the excess I come up with is the nondeductible contribution that can be returned. I don't see anything to prevent that action, but it doesn't seem in the spirit of things?


    Fully Insured - 412i - Book

    Guest mingblue
    By Guest mingblue,

    Ive heard that there's a book out - there may be more than one - that covers 412i plans quite well - does anyone know where I could get it ???


    Electronic Beneficiary Designations

    Guest TrustMe401k
    By Guest TrustMe401k,

    Just trying to find out if any of you work with plans that let participants manage beneficiary designations online. For those with spousal consent requirements I assume you are still requiring paper?

    Just curious to see what is being done out there.

    Thanks


    Terminating plan missing SH contrib

    TBob
    By TBob,

    A 401(k) plan was using the SHNEC up through 2004. For 2005 they amended the SH out of the plan. The 2003 SHNEC was deposited in early 2005 (obviously late) with lost earnings calculated and deposited as well. The owner of the company has refused to pay the 2004 SHNEC that is owed to the participants despite our repeated and well documented attempts to get the $ from him.

    Recently, he shut down the company and wants to terminate the plan. We finally convinced him that he needs to deposit the SHNEC before he can terminate the plan (or things are going to get ugly, very soon for him). He would now like to take the money out of his own account in the plan to pay for the missing SHNEC and lost earnings (he has pleanty of money in the plan to cover this amount).

    My initial thought was to let him take a taxable cash distribution from his account. He could then turn around and pay it back to the plan. One concern of course is allowing the owner to take a distribution prior to receiving the final determination letter. Particularly, when the plan does have the late/missing SH contributions that will affect qualification. Would you allow the distribution? Other alternatives or concerns?


    Cross Tested allocation

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    This plan did fine last year with cross-testing with the goal to get the most $ to DAD of the contribution . For the current PYE, they lost a NHCE who was younger and increased salaries on the younger sons (who are owners). I gave everyone 5% except Mom & Dad (who are 63 and 66 respectively) and gave them 15%. All of my tests fail miserably no matter how I run (accrual vs. allocation), etc. (I use Relius)

    Here are the demographics:

    HCES:

    SON - AGE 33 COMP $150400 - GREATER THAN 5% OWNER

    SON - AGE 39 COMP $168600 - GREATER THAN 5% OWNER

    SON'S WIFE - AGE 47 COMP $13,000 - OWNER BY ATTRIBUTION

    MOM - AGE 63 - COMP $9600 - GREATER THAN 5% OWNER

    DAD - AGE 66 - COMP $147000 - GREATER THAN 5% OWNER

    EMPLOYEE - AGE 36 - COMP $91828 - HCE COMP > LIMIT IN PRIOR YEAR - NO OWNERSHIP

    NHCES:

    EMPLOYEE AGE 31 COMP $48443

    EMPLOYEE AGE 55 COMP $51571

    EMPLOYEE AGE 59 COMP $56606

    I'm thinking maybe I'm not using Relius correctly to test because it seems like if I give everyone 5% except Mom & Dad, I should pass easily. What am I missing? Any suggestions appreciated!


    mortality table name

    Tom Poje
    By Tom Poje,

    ok, just what does TPF & C Forecast Mortality Table stand for?

    I don't need the table - that is programmed into the system, but was looking for a description to put on the relative value notice.

    (I'm almost positive it is not Tom Poje Failure and Catastrophe, though that might be appropriate in reference to me!)


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