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    Lifetime Income Statements

    Anon401kTPA
    By Anon401kTPA,

    I have been doing this a LONG time, but I think I may have missed an important class somewhere along the way.

    1)  If a plan offers self-direction, the participants are getting monthly statements from the brokerage firm (ie, Merrill Lynch) or online platform (ie, Empower).  These statements should satisfy the quarterly requirement.   I do not prepare quarterly statements because my clients do not wish to pay me to do so. 

    2) If a plan does not offer an annuity form of payment, what purpose do these silly things serve?  

    Thanks.


    Long term part time employees

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    I haven't seen any official guidance on the following situation, and I wondered if there was something that I missed?

    Suppose a plan excludes "truck drivers" for all purposes. They are excluded even if they have satisfied the plan's 1 YOS/1,000 hour requirement. Plan passes coverage with flying colors.

    Now skip ahead to 2024 (*or possibly 2023 if SECURE 2.0 further complicates things). Must the LTPT truck drivers be allowed to defer?

    It seems like the grossest type of stupidity if they must be covered, while excluding people in the same employment classification who satisfy a 1 YOS/1,000 hour requirement.

    If there hasn't been any official guidance I've missed, anyone have a pipeline with some IRS folks for "unofficial" conversations that they might have had?


    Recordkeeper pays missed earnings?

    cathyw
    By cathyw,

    Due to an error by the recordkeeper, the vested benefits paid to many terminated participants were understated and balances that should have been vested were forfeited.  This occurred for several years and we are now filing a VCP application to correct.  The participants' accounts will be reopened and the restoration of the vested benefits will come from the plan's forfeiture account.  The missed earnings will be calculated based on the plan's rate of return for the intervening years.  The recordkeeper has acknowledged responsibility and will pay for the missed earnings amount.  

    Can the recordkeeper just fund the missed earnings directly (i.e., deposit the amount into the participants' accounts)?  Alternatively, should the earnings also be restored from the forfeiture account and the recordkeeper then reimburse the plan sponsor outside the plan?  

    Any downsides to the two approaches?

    Thanks for all input and/or past experiences.

     


    Death of Sole Proprietor

    ac
    By ac,

    We have a Profit Sharing Plan that was sponsored by a sole proprietor.  The business he owns has employees who are participants in the Plan.  The Sole Proprietor passed away.  His will left his assets to a revocable trust.

    Does the revocable trust become the plan sponsor?  Can a revocable trust be a plan sponsor?

    Has anyone had an issue like this?


    SIMPLE

    PS
    By PS,

    Hi, 

    One of the participant is trying to rollover his 401k Plan into his SIMPLE however there was no funding for 2 years (into his SIMPLE).  if the there was no funding for 2 years is it true the part will not be able to rollover the funds to his SIMPLE? 

    Thanks 


    LTD and health FSA

    alexa
    By alexa,

    We have an employee who just got approved for LTD after 6 months. He has been working part-time (about 20 hours/week) after his STD expired 6 months ago

    He has decided to continue to work part-time. Our benefits eligibility is 20 hours/week 

    He currently has a health FSA. Our policy has been to terminate all benefits with exception of continuing medical and employer paid basic life at 1x pay and offering COBRA for dental & vision one someone gets approved for LTD. This is the first LTD who has returned to work 

    Can we terminate his health FSA or other benefits since still actively employed and benefits eligible?

    Is LTD status a "change in status" event? if so what benefits can be changed?

    Our fully insured carrier has a Return to Work Incentive of up to 12 months as long as monthly earnings from job+ LTD benefit not more than 100% of predisability pay

    For him to get full LTD he will need to reduce his hours to no more than 16 hours/week which makes him ineligible for benefits

    To make things more interesting we are no longer going to terminate anyone on an LTD status so not sure yet how that affects the equation:)

    Thanks in advance for any help

    Lexy

     

     

     

     


    New W-4P for pension systems grace period - any other issues?

    Ryan
    By Ryan,

    With the mandate for the new version of the W-4P being just 5 months away, we've encountered a unique issue and I'd like to see what other pension systems are doing.

    We currently send out the old format form (Single or Married with number of allowances), but in December when we implement the new format form we'll literally have thousands of old format forms out to members. The IRS has given the computational bridge to enter an old format into the new format, so we can handle that during 2022 and into 2023. But I can't find any guidance for a "grace period" of accepting old forms. I know we'll get old forms signed in 2023 during the transition - I'd sure hate to send forms back to them and default them to the new "single with no adjustments" because they don't have a current form.

    But my question to you: How long will you accept an old format form next year? (the ones in member's hands while they deliberate the start date of their pension)

    Any other issues you've encountered with the new form mandate?


    Partial plan termination plan still existing 6 years later

    SSRRS
    By SSRRS,

    Hi,

    A DB Plan was adopted for 2014. The only participants for 2014 were the owner and 1 employee.  The other 15 employees worked each year less than 1000 hours and were not eligible. In early 2015 this eligible employee terminated and was  0% vested, since did not have 2 years with at least 1000 hrs ( only 2014). 

    Question: 1. Would this be a partial plan termination? 

    2. If yes, would this one terminated employee become 100 vested?

    3. Why should the owner be "penalized" and be forced to make this employee 100% vested just because there were only 2 participant's in the plan (and 1 terminated)?...... The plan is still in existence in 2022, 7 years later, (with the owner still the only participant) and there are no plans to terminate the plan, and calling this a partial termination is quite harsh.

    4. What is the ramification if the terminated employee was removed from the plan (since at termination was 0% vested) instead of being kept in the plan and becoming 100%vested?

    Thank you very much for any insights.


    Terminating Cash Balance Plan - Contribution Obligation

    metsfan026
    By metsfan026,

    If a client opts to terminate their Cash Balance Plan prior to the end of '22, due to selling the business, is their a contribution obligation for '22?  Just want to confirm so the client knows what to expect prior to termination.

    Thanks in advance!


    Lifetime income illustrations - pooled plans

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    Curious as to opinions on this - suppose you have pooled plan, annual valuation only, and the client (on extension) doesn't get you data until the last minute. (Naturally, no one else has any such clients...)

    I guess you just have to send them late. Only other alternative is to send them out with duplicate of 12/31/2020 statements, with some sort of disclaimer, but I don't much like that option. 

    Other alternatives/thoughts? This is preying on my mind, with a lot of folks on extension this year...

    Thanks.


    Schwab "Solo 401(k)"

    PamR
    By PamR,

    I know they don't really exist, however, I have a client that has a "solo 401k)" with Schwab.  He has hired an employee and that employee is now eligible.  Schwab will not allow us to open an account for the employee under the current plan.  They say we can open a company retirement account (CRA) for that money.  When I asked how to transfer the "solo 401k" account over to the CRA I was given a distribution form, well there is no distributable event and they confirmed it would generate a 1099, etc.  Has anyone else run into this situation?  Have any ideas how to solve it?  

    We restated the plan on our plan document and I guess we can just keep his "solo 401k" account and combine it with the CRA account for 5500 purposes, just seems like there should be an easier way.


    Compensation - K-1 - Real Estate Income

    ldr
    By ldr,

    Good afternoon to all,

    I have been asked to post the following question, and I do not have any further details concerning the reason for the question.

    "Is the definition of plan compensation for a partner (in a partnership) anything other than box 14a on the K-1 if the income comes from real estate income? "

    Thank you in advance for any information you can share in this regard.

     

     


    2021 Termination, assets keep coming back

    Basically
    By Basically,

    A single member plan that invests through Merrill Lynch made every effort to liquidate before 12/31/2021 so that the plan can be terminated.   The process started in August of 2021 and everything was rolled into IRAs.   For some reason 14 shares of an investment kept being returned to the account.  $1,900 dollars.  It left and came back and left and came back.  The advisor is saying its a ML back office problem.  He has a documented paper trail.  

    I am of the mind to say the plan is terminated as of 12/31/2021.  If an issue arises later then deal with it then.  

    Sound good?  Anyone ever have this problem?  


    Form 5500EZ, assets dip below $250,000

    Basically
    By Basically,

    A client is telling me that the form 5500EZ does not need to be filed this year because their assets have dipped below $250,000 (as of 12/31/2021).  Makes me nervous to not file.  Do people skip a year if the plan's assets don't exceed $250,000?  Or is it recommended/you recommend to the client to keep filing?  OR by chance, is an EZ plan required to keep filing once a form was filed (even if assets are less than $250,000 now)?

     


    USERRA Make Up Contributions

    Purplemandinga
    By Purplemandinga,

    Would a participant who had the opportunity to make up deferrals due to military service under USERRA result in a prior year 5500 being amended to record the deferral in that plan year?


    Lifetime income illustrations

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    Stupid question, but I just want to make absolutely sure I'm not missing something - not applicable to 457 plans, right? Gracias.


    Plan Sponsor & Plan Name Changes - 5500 - "accrued or cash"

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Plan Sponsor changes its name and its plan's name as of 7/1.  5500 for prior 12/31 has not yet been filed. I'm wondering which is the best set of names to file with - the prior which were in effect as of 12/31, or the current in effect as of signing date?


    Church plan claims survivor benefit reduction under a QDRO

    blguest
    By blguest,

    While I have written thousands of QDROs, I have never run into this issue before, so anyone who might wade in here is welcome. DB church plan participant elected a 100% J&S. This elderly couple then divorced years after benefit commencement. My client is the former spouse joint annuitant for the benefit currently in pay status.

    Submitted a QDRO to the plan assigning my client (the AP) 50% of the benefit in pay status and confirming her 100% SB benefit already in place. The plan refused to qualify the order because they claim that per the plan document, as an AP, my client is only entitled to a 50% survivor annuity, notwithstanding the fact she is already a 100% joint annuitant.

    The language in the plan document does not directly address an in pay status survivor benefit for a former spouse who is already a joint annuitant. If the plan's interpretation of its document stands, the plan would benefit by divesting a current joint annuitant of their property as already paid for by the participant.

    Any thoughts?


    Gross pay insufficient to deduct 401(k) deferrals?

    kmhaab
    By kmhaab,

    What happens if an employee's gross pay for a pay period is insufficient to cover the employee's salary deferrals and they are therefore not deducted in accordance with the employee's election? Is this a plan failure? 

    I recognize this would be a rare occurrence, but think it's possible in a scenario where an employee has fixed $$ deductions that take precedence over benefits (i.e., child support, wage garnishments). 

    Thanks in advance!

     


    New DB Plan - identifying 1st 5500 filing year

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    One-person DB plan, adopted in 2022 for 2021.

    First contribution deposited in 2022.

    Say contribution is > $250,000, file 5500 for 2021?

    Say it is less, no 2021 filing needed.

    Let's move to 2022:

    2022 contribution deposited in 2023, taking net balance over $250,000.  File for 2022, or ultimately file first 5500 for 2023?


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