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    Is this partial termination?

    Jakyasar
    By Jakyasar,

    Hi

    Combo Plan. Total 15 participants

    DC plan has all 15 participants of which 6 are terminated

    CB plan has only 6 participants of which only 1 terminated (9 others are excluded categorically)

    Do I have partial termination issue with the CB plan?

    Thank you


    Pay CB expenses with 401k Forfeiture?

    Gadgetfreak
    By Gadgetfreak,

    Anyone know if this is allowed? Same employer, two different plans. Thanks in advance.


    Lost participants and sending SPD, SAR, etc...

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    I know there are proscribed steps to find lost participants before you can shuffle their benefit to an IRA.

    However, is there such a rubric for when participants cannot be located when they have to be sent an SAR, SPD or SMM?

    For example, plan is adding installment payments as a distribution option.  An SMM is prepared and mailed to all affected participants.  That will include any former employees with a balance in the plan.

    What happens if some of the SMMs to former EEs come back as undeliverable?  Obviously, the SAR will come back, too.  Are there rules similar to the ones for the forced distributions?

    If so, does anyone ever really take those steps?


    Safe Harbor 401(k) Plan October 1st deadline

    Ananda
    By Ananda,

    There is an October 1st deadline for setting up a safe harbor 401(k) plan. Is anyone aware of any exceptions to this deadline for setting up a safe harbor plan after October 1st?


    DOT is last day or first day of PY questions

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Two separate questions: (PY 7/1 to 6/30)

    1)  PSP has last day requirement only.  If someone's last day worked is 6/30, do they a PS allocation?  Why or why not?

    2) For 5500 participant count.  If last day worked is 7/1, are they considered 'active' for 5500 purposes at BOY?  Why or why not?


    404 Deduction

    steve45
    By steve45,

    Total compensation for all eligible participants = $950,000

    Then, 25% of total compensation = $237,500. 
    Which sources will be counted for this deduction? (Profit sharing, Safe Harbor, Match.. which sources are to be count

     

    Thanks in advance.


    Orphan Match / Individual 402g Limit

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    Participant maxes out his 401k at Employer at $26,000.  He starts a new job in December with immediate eligibility and a match.

    My advice is go ahead and contribute to get the match and then request a refund of your 401k after year-end.  My recollection (which I cannot confirm) is that such a refund request would not kick off an orphan match situation requiring match forfeitures.  The logic of course is the employee could request the excess refund from either plan.  Anyway if someone can set me straight one way or the other I would appreciate it. 

    Completely different of course then someone getting matched on 401k over $26,000 in the same plan or even for the same employer.


    Accelerating vesting/payment Short-term deferral exception

    Moosen14
    By Moosen14,

    I wanted to revisit a post that I reviewed  from a few years ago relating to the acceleration of vesting/payment that is appropriately treated as a short-term deferral (see prior post here https://benefitslink.com/boards/index.php?/topic/63098-accelerating-payments-under-short-term-deferral-exception/ ). The question I have is generally whether company discretion to accelerate the vesting payment could serve as a premise the payment is no longer subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture. below is a brief fact-pattern of a situation that may present this issue, of course the facts are exhaustive so add in any points or items that may impact the analysis. 

    Example - under a long-term bonus plan an employee is entitled to as a bonus payment of a portion of net company earnings for years 1 with 50% of the bonus being payable on 3/15 year 2 and 50% payable on 3/15 year three. The plan provides the employee must be employed on the payment date to receive the bonus. An employee wants to retire 1/1 Year three, and the company decides to move up the vesting date and payment of the second 50% payable on 3/15 to the employee's retirement. 

    My understanding from the previous post is that since the payment was not covered under 409A to begin with, as a short term deferral, the acceleration is permissible and not a 409A violation. My question however, is whether the employer's discretion to accelerate the payment could be argued to no longer make the amounts subject to a substantial risk of forfeiture due to the risk of forfeiture not being substantial due to the company's discretion to voluntary accelerate the payments, cause the payment to fall outside of the short-term deferral. I know this is a facts and circumstances test, but does anyone have any insight on whether the company discretion may impact the substantial risk of forfeiture analysis? Thanks in advance for your time in reviewing and responding!


    SIMPLE contributions not made 2019-2021

    DHoff
    By DHoff,

    If a company with 1 employee - the owner - claims SIMPLE contributions on the tax returns and has not made the contributions for 2019, 2020, and 2021, what is the best solution?  It is not a lot of money that is owed to the plan (under $15,000 plus earnings I suppose).  All of the contributions go to the owner as employee and employer contributions.  Any insight is appreciated!  Thank you!


    Single member plan terminated, liquidated 11/23/2021... File 2020 EZ now?

    Basically
    By Basically,

    A client closed down her single member plan and it's final liquidation occurred on 11/23.  The balance is $0.  My next step is to prepare a final form 5500-EZ.  

    Do I  use the 2020 EZ?  and change the year end to be 11/23/2021?

    Just want to do it correctly, cross the T's and dot the I's

    Thanks


    Plan Split to Avoid Audit

    bzorc
    By bzorc,

    Current 401(k) Plan will have around 140 participants as of 12/31/2021, thus making it subject to a certified audit. The plan sponsor, to avoid the cost of an audit, desires to split the plan into two (plans are identical), effective 1/1/2022, so that each plan has 70 participants, making them not subject to audit. The assets of the plan will not be split, but, rather, will remain in the current trust, and will be administered and "record-kept" by the current TPA.

    Questions:

    As the old plan will technically have 140 participants on 1/1/22, and then, later in the day, will be at 70/70, is the old plan subject to a one day audit?

    Second, is it allowable for the assets of both plans to be in the same trust? I would say yes if the trust were designated a Master Trust, but the TPA has no idea as to what a Master Trust is. I did some reading and came upon a Group Trust, but this appears to cover plans of different employers.

    Any comments would be appreciated, thank you!

     


    16b indicator

    PS
    By PS,

    Hi, 

    one of the client would like to know if the 16b indicator can be removed any idea how this can be done? 


    Order Transferring IRA Subject to Divorce.

    Thornton
    By Thornton,

    H and W divorce. Both are under 59 1/2. H is awarded $11,000 from W's IRA. He does not intend to roll it over. An Order Transferring IRA Incident to Divorce (similar to a QDRO) is drafted, signed by H and W and approved by the court. If this were a distribution from a qualified plan under a QDRO, H would include the distribution in his income but would not be subject to the 10% early withdrawal penalty. Question: Is H subject to the penalty tax here? 


    Partner alternatives to participating in a cafeteria plan

    RPA67
    By RPA67,

    Hello,

    We have a law firm client that is looking for options to making their partners whole because they have to pay 100 percent of the cost of their coverage outside the cafeteria plan. This may not make them whole, but  the only option I can think of might be for the partnership to pay a flat amount to each partner (or maybe just the cost of EE only coverage)  for the coverages as a business expense? I would recommend the same flat amount as each partner shares in the partnership’s profits, so the dollar amount contributed to the partnership should not favor family coverage over single or spousal coverage. The partner may need to include the payments in gross income, which he should be able to deduct on his income tax return.   Are there any other options?

    Thanks in advance!


    Disclaim Benefits form?

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Does anyone have a Disclaimer of Benefits form I can use?  I'm sure there's a standard or I could probably create my own, but I don't want to re-create the wheel.

    We have a spouse who wants to disclaim the benefits of his deceased spouse and have the kids get the money. 

    As I understand it, he cannot disclaim the benefit and choose who it goes to, but that's not an issue as terms of the plan say after the spouse, the benefit goes to children equally.

    In this case, not in RMD pay status.


    SIMPLE and 401(k) Plans in stock sale

    pmacduff
    By pmacduff,

    I don't work at all with SIMPLE Plans - client with 401(k) (my client) and another client with SIMPLE Plan are merging in a stock sale.  There will be a third, brand new Company [effective 01/01/2022] with a new EIN for all employees.  The new Company wishes to continue the 401(k) plan with the new Company as Plan Sponsor and terminate the SIMPLE Plan, which would happen regardless because there will be well over 100 employees after the merger.

    I believe I understand the transition year, which in this instance will be the 2022 plan year.   However if all employees are now on the same payroll in 2022 (under the "new" Company and EIN) is it still possible to have the SIMPLE participants making SIMPLE contributions and the 401(k) participants contributing to the 401(k) Plan for the 2022 transition year?

    Thanks in advance.

    edited to add:  So is this a dumb question because of course they would all be on the same payroll for the transition year? 

    Also - the SIMPLE participants are going to be excluded by amendment prior to the start of the 2022 plan year.  (Coverage is ok regardless.)

     


    Amending to exclude union, nonresident, leased - any issue

    TPApril
    By TPApril,

    Looks to me like original plan doc preparer neglected to check off to exclude union, nonresident aliens and leased employees from a plan doc.

    Never having seen this, curious if, as part of restatement, such exclusions could be added moving forward.

    No such employees have been employed per plan sponsor.


    404 Compensation

    steve45
    By steve45,

    Plan excludes bonus from compensation and there are post entry compensation for two participants (as per plan document). 

    How should I determine total 404 (25% Deduction Limit) compensation for any plan year? excluding bonus & post entry compensation or only consider gross compensation

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

     


    restatement (or secures act amendment) before Plan Merger?

    mattmc82
    By mattmc82,

    if a plan is on a PPA document right now, and was merging into a plan that had a cycle 3 document by the end of year, is there any requirement for the plan to do an amendment before merging? I wouldn't think so but curious what the experts here think.


    Happy Thanksgiving!

    BG5150
    By BG5150,

    Here's hoping you and yours have a great Thanksgiving holiday weekend!

    To my friend in Canada, Happy Belated Thanksgiving.

    To those elsewhere, have fun working tomorrow!  LOL


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