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110% test related
Hi
Doing a 110% liability test for a CB plan.
As far as I know, one can use any reasonable method as long as it is approved by the sponsor and stay with the decision forever.
The methods I am aware of are, 415 lump sum assumptions, 417e assumptions or 430 assumptions. Assume AFTAP is not an issue.
Usually 430 assumptions would yield lowest amounts but in my case nothing is working so looking for another way to lower the liabilities and see if they can pay the HCE who is now terminated and under disability. I would like to get this done before an accrual for 2022 happens which will make things even worse.
Any other methodologies that I am not thinking of?
I know the bond/annuity etc options but trying to avoid.
Thank you
1099R issued to Plan Sponsor
Participant terminated, entitled to payout, check was requested from the annuity carrier. Plan Sponsor receives the 1099-R showing Plan Sponsor as the recipient, with the gross amount the participant is entitled to, and an amount withheld. The broker must have established the annuity in the company name and not the name of the Plan. I would think the annuity carrier paid the IRS the withholding but under their EIN.
Annuity carrier sends Plan Sponsor a net check, sponsor deposits into their corporate account and pays the participant, cross referencing the whole transaction.
Now participant is calling client complaining she ever received a 1099R, and client comes to us to prepare.
I believe that since withholding already paid, I would show the net distribution as the gross and the net amount taxable with $0 withheld?
Distribution from Defined Benefit plan - rollover to Roth account in governmental 457(b) Plan?
So I'm struggling with this - distribution from a Defined Benefit plan - participant wants to roll into a Roth account in a Governmental 457(b) Plan.
I'm thinking it must be rolled into the 457(b) plan as non-Roth, then converted as an on-plan Roth rollover. But that seems stupid - can it just be rolled directly to the Roth account in the 457(b) (and of course reported as taxable)?
Highly Compensated Former Employee on Form 6088
Column b of the Form 6088 asks that you indicate if each participant listed is an HCE. For this purpose, is a former HCE considered an HCE?
Thanks for any responses!
Otherwise excludable when YOS is elapsed time?
What happens when the plan's method of crediting hours of service is the elapsed time method?
is a Year of Service merely when someone works for 12 months straight (or credited due to spanning rules)?
How does that translate to calculating Otherwise Excludable?
I have a participant in q 403(b) plan who was hired 7/3/18 and worked 350, 650, 675, 720 hours in '18, '19, '20 and '21.
Is the OEX rule purely 1,000 hours in a year, or can it be based on elapsed time and depends on the plan's definition?
can this person be OEX or no?
Deferral... Voluntary Contribution... Mess!
Client bonused himself $28,000 to max out his deferral
He reported on his W2 $28K in box 12 and coded it D
I told him he exceeded the 402g limit
He withheld taxes from the $28K and deposited $25,858 into the plan.
He wants to say that the extra $2K is a voluntary contribution. He can do this (doesn't exceed 415 limit) but it needs to be in Box 14... correct?
And technically he needs to actually deposit $28,000... correct?
In the end he needs to amend the W2 and make whole the $28K in the plan... correct?
Employee included by mistake
A plan sponsor provided a hire date that was actually months before the employee was actually hired. As a result the employee was included in the profit sharing contribution calculation. A contribution was made on the employee's behalf. This is a straight PS plan, not a 401(k). Do we have to honor the contribution, or actually, do we have to take it away ?
Thanks
safe harbor match plan, retro amendment to make employee eligible and top heavy exemption
Plan only does deferrals and safe harbor match. One employee met the one year wait, but not enough hours; sponsor let her in anyway. Found out the following year, so did a corrective retro-amendment to let in the NHCE for deferral & SH match early. Does this take away the top heavy exemption?
Employee terminated as W-2 and rehired as 1099
Hi
Combo plan, CB+DC.
An HCE was employed in 2020 as a w-2. Excluded from CB but included in the DC.
Now I am informed that he terminated as an employee on 1/2/2021 and became 1099 employee for 2021. He had $0 W-2 for 2021 however they make 26k deferral plus non elective SH on his behalf for 2021.
How is he treated for all coverage and non-discrimination testing? How is his deferral/SH to be corrected?
Thank you for your comments.
Is Schedule A required with 5500-SF
if a plan has assets with VOYA or a vendor like this, is there a requirement to attach/create a Schedule or do you just report fees/commissions on 5500-SF
Universal eligibility? Full-time temporary employee expected to work (less than 1,000 hours).
For Universal Eligibility, is regularly scheduled for 20 hours per week determined week by week, or is it an annualized test?
In other words, if a 40 hour per week temp is hired for a one month engagement (less than 1,000 hours expectation) can they be excluded as being regularly scheduled for less than 20 hours per week, even though they will be 40 hours per week for one month?
The 1,000 hour test in the 2007 regulations, the LRM definition, and Notice 2018-95 all state that the 20 hour test is really based on expectations for a full year, rather than a week by week schedule. This makes sense in a way. What if you hired a 40 hour per week employee for just a one week assignment ?
Still, I see many different "interpretations" of UniVersal Availability on websites, and they all dance around (or are unaware) of this issue.
I get around it for most clients by making 403(b) available for all, but this interesting issue came up.
8955-SSA Filings - records of filings?
As you are aware, many moons ago, we / I would file an 8955-SSA to show participants with balances in a retirement plan. These were typically un-locatable or non-responsive participants, and filing this form was "THE" alternative to a 100% withholding to the IRS. (They frowned upon 100% w/h, didn't they?!?)
A) does anyone file an 8955-SSA anymore? I only have small clients (<20 participants each), so this need does not arise often if ever.
B) is there a way to see what has been reported for a specific EIN? I just found the 2017 8955-SSA of a takeover client in the previous TPA's records. I don't know what, if anything, was filed prior to 2017.
Thanks!
BTW - I did a search for "SSA" prior to posting this, but "0" topics were found. Sorry if this topic is redundant.
Safe Harbor mid-year amendment to compensation definition - nonelective contribution plan
See the following excerpt from IRS Notice 2020-52. the situation at =hand is this: SH nonelective plan, and the HCE's are excluded from receiving the SH contribution, although a "discretionary" SH contribution may be made on their behalf. They want to amend plan to exclude bonuses for Non-owner HCE's. No problem doing this with a 30 day notice, as the bonuses wouldn't be paid until close to year-end (2022) anyway. I'm curious as to opinions on whether the 30 day notice is required in the following particular situation:
No notice - just amend currently with no notice (if it ever comes). I think it is, to be safe, but maybe I'm being overly conservative.
III. CLARIFICATION OF REQUIREMENTS FOR REDUCING CONTRIBUTIONS MADE ON BEHALF OF HCEs As described in section II.B of this notice, contributions made on behalf of HCEs are not included in the definition of safe harbor contributions. Accordingly, a mid-year change that reduces only contributions made on behalf of HCEs is not a reduction or suspension of safe harbor contributions described in §§ 1.401(k)-3(g) and 1.401(m)-3(h). However, a mid-year change that reduces only contributions made on behalf of HCEs would be a mid-year change to a plan’s required safe harbor notice content for purposes of section III.B of Notice 2016-16. Therefore, in order to satisfy the notice and election opportunity conditions of section III.C of Notice 2016-16, which apply generally to changes that affect required safe harbor notice content and are not reductions or suspensions of safe harbor contributions, an updated safe harbor notice and an election opportunity must be provided to HCEs to whom the mid-year change applies, determined as of the date of issuance of the updated safe harbor notice.1
IRS Notice CP214
One of our clients just received an IRS Notice CP214, which describes the circumstances under which a one-participant plan must file a Form 5500-EZ. The last line of the notice states, "Alternatively, you may be able to file Form 5500-SF online using EFAST2's web-based filing system or through an EFAST2 approved vendor."
The 2021 Form 5500-EZ specifically state that a one-participant plan cannot file a Form 5500 or Form 5500-SF.
Am I misinterpreting the CP214?
Thanks.
Participant Took Coronavirus-Related Distribution in 2020, Tax Spread over 3 Years; Can Repayment of Amount Otherwise Taxed Be Deducted?
Participant A was a participant in the C 401(k) Plan until she terminated employment in 2020. A takes a Coronavirus-related distribution during 2020 and elects to have the tax spread out over 3 years. During late 2021, A starts a business as a sole proprietor and sets up a solo 401(k) plan. If A repays the full amount of the one-third of the 2020 distribution that would otherwise be taxable to her in 2021, and contributes that amount to the solo 401(k) plan, can A deduct the amount of the 2021 repayment on her 2021 tax return? Assume that the total amount contributed to the solo 401(k) plan, including the amount repaid of the repaid Coronavirus-related distribution, does not exceed the 402(g) limit on elective deferrals or the deduction limit under Code Section 404(a).
Failed to file form 5500ez
I have failed to file form 5500ez for 10+ years. I always assumed my accountant took care of it. Can I qualify for the max fine of $1500 through the penalty relief program? Also would i have to file a seperate return for every year my account was $250k?
Short Plan Year?
Greetings everyone. If a newly formed business started March 16, 2021 and adopted the plan effective March 16, 2021, are they subject to the short plan year proration rules? Or are they exempt from the rule because their business was formed later in the year?
The plan is a Volume Submitter MEP, and the client adoption agreement states: "The initial plan year begins on the Effective Date of this plan and ends on the following December 31. If the initial plan year does not begin on January 1, the initial plan year shall be a short plan year."
I thought there may be an exception for newly formed businesses.
Thank you!
In Kind Distributions
3 person plan, H/W owners and one NHCE. Owners retiring and business and plan closing. Client doesn't want to liquidate investments to transfer to IRA so are planning on doing in-kind rollover. NHCE is taking a rollover of cash to IRA.
H/W owners only doing in-kind withdrawal. Want to know does it have to be done as a percentage of each asset for each person. So, do H/W both have to get their percentage of each investment or can they calculate the amount needed and move specific assets to one person. I'm inclined to say it needs to be a proportion of each investment but then I thought what does it matter as long as the correct amount is distributed to each as it's not the plan's concern what they invest in their IRA.
Plan amended for in-svc distribution NRA - frozen - but lump sum available
Simple question - if a plan is amended to allow in-service distribution (after NRA only, no early in-service commencement) and offers a lump sum, are there any restrictions (beyond high-25 and AFTAP related issues - neither apply here) that would prevent a full time participants reaching NRA (age 65 here) from taking a lump sum?
The amendment to the plan doesn't suggest there are any (as in, the amendment could've easily referenced the LS option as being excluded if it wasn't allowable) and the plan is long frozen, but it does seem a bit odd. I can't think of anything other than seeming odd, though - there's no need to suspend benefits since in service distribution is allowed and the only real exposure to the participant (if they take the lump sum and don't roll it over) is understanding the tax implications of taking a lump sum (already covered in literature).
Top Heavy and Safe Harbor
We have a plan that has a Safe Harbor NEC contribution. Prior to 1/1/2020, the pretax eligibility was 60 days, SHNEC 1 YOS. With those provisions, they lost their top heavy exemption. (of course they are top heavy)
1/1/2020, they change the eligibility for both pretax and SHNEC to 1 YOS. So we thought all would be good. However, they rehired a participant at the time of previous employment met the pretax eligibility. Upon rehire, they are now eligible for pretax, but still have not completed a YOS for the SH contribution.
How does this impact their top heavy exemption? Does it still apply or since they have a participant not SH eligible does it not apply? Would they need to give her a TH contribution? If so since the plan excludes comp prior to eligibility, would they have to calculate the 3% on gross comp for those that became newly eligible in 2021?






