A client (owner of a two-member LLC) is considering selling his business (the LLC) or transferring his interests to the other member (his brother).  The LLC maintains a defined benefit plan for the LLC's members/employees.  Does the LLC have to or should it terminate the plan? Can the plan continue in effect? Under what circumstances would it be best to terminate the plan? Should the plan be frozen regardless? 

Unusual question came up. Sole prop - plan is a 3% SH plan, HC's are NOT excluded.

It has been proposed that the plan be amended to exclude the sole prop from receiving the SH for 2019, on the grounds that since the sole prop isn't required to receive a SH (if the plan is set up that way) that it is ok.

To me, this seems like a very aggressive approach, and I wouldn't do it. However, I always like to hear the opinions of others - anyone have a different viewpoint?

A client maintains a VEBA which provides the following coverages: dental, life insurance, critical illness and accident benefits, vision coverage and group legal services coverage. All coverages except group legal coverage are excludable from the participants' gross income. The employer pays the premium for all such coverages and employees do not have the ability to choose whether or not to have certain coverages, other than to indicate for dental and vision whether the coverage is for the employee only, the employee and spouse or family coverage. If the client was unaware that the group legal plan was not excludable from members' gross income but learns for the first time that such coverage is taxable, should the client limit the taxability of such coverage to the current year and prospectively thereafter, prospectively only from the point of learning its true taxability or should the employer retroactively revise its tax treatment of such coverage?

A related question relates to the treatment of benefits received for such coverage. Section 120 of the Code excluded both the employer's contribution or premium payment for coverage as well as the value of benefits received for such coverage. How should the employer determine the value of such coverage for tax purposes?

A final question is whether the group legal benefit should be completely removed from the VEBA since it is taxable.

Thank you.

Traditional 401(k) - not safe harbor - plan sponsor had small system glitch in last half of 2018 and one NHCE received $86 more match that he should have.  It was discovered during the audit.  HCEs received refunds of excess deferrals for failed ADP.  Plan sponsor would prefer not to ask for the $86 back from NHCE.  Is that an option for them or does that cause other problems?

We deal mostly with SH 401(k) plans so we are a little cold on how to address this.

Thanks!

We have a plan that is a spin off from another plan.  Do we have issues regarding protected benefits that need to be addressed in the new plan's AA?

Thank you for your replies.

A company had a layoff where 30% of their employees were let go in February 2019, so it's a clear partial plan termination and they will be 100% vested. IRS guidance seems to indicate that any other participants who leave the company during the same plan year, even voluntarily, would also become 100% vested. Is that correct?

"An affected employee in a partial termination is generally anyone who left employment for any reason during the plan year in which the partial termination occurred and who still has an account balance under the plan."

We are working through our list of clients that need the PPA restatement for their current documents.

I have come across a plan for a Boys and Girls Club.  I know that 'nonprofit recreational clubs' are tax exempt but cannot sponsor a 403b plan.  Would a Boys and Girls Club fall under this definition of 'nonprofit recreational clubs'? 

Does anyone reading this blog have Boys and Girls Club as a client who have a 403b plan?  Or is it enough that the Form 990 reflects the company as a 501(c)(3) organization?

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

A current physician practice bought another practice in an asset sale.   the Assets of the benefits plans were not included in the sale.     May the new employer bring the employees of that plan into their plan immediately and count service with the prior employer for eligibility and vesting?    Is a plan amendment needed?   thank you

Sole Proprietor has set up 5305-SEP and wants to set up a 401k plan for current calendar year and only contribute to 401k plan.

No contributions yet for current calendar year. He will notify recordkeeper that he will terminate the 5305-SEP (seems that is how to terminate such a SEP?)

Question: Can the PS feature of the 401k plan be effective 1/1 of the same year, which is prior to the 5305-SEP being terminated? 

We use Sharefile and I suppose it is OK, but it is too complicated for a lot of our clients and I presume there must be a better option out there.  I'm curious if anyone uses a different system. Sharefile is integrated with Outlook so we can easily encrypt our attachments, AND our clients can upload files directly to our own personal in box.

But the password thing is clunky, clients always forget their passwords, etc. Anythng better out there?

Has anyone done an Anonymous VCP submission through pay.gov yet? I'm wondering how to handle the payment. They only take ACH and credit cards. Doesn't seem very anonymous.

There are two entities -- A and B -- in a controlled group together.  Each have their own 401(k).  We want to eliminate B's plan at the end of the year, but over the course of the next few months, we are going to have a bunch of B employees moving over to A and they will be immediately eligible for A's plan.  So, we are going to violate the 2% rule under the successor plan rule because at least 2% of the participants in the B plan will have participated in the A plan in the 12 months leading up to terminating the B plan.

Is there a way we can spin off the accounts in the B plan of the people we expect to transfer to the A plan?  That way we'd have B1 holding those accounts and B2 holding the other accounts.  At the end of the year, we can terminate B2 without any successor plan issues, and merge B1 into the A plan.  Any thoughts or issues?

A client has a DB plan, started in 1998. The plan was subject to a Hard Freeze in 2016, and a new pension plan was established.  The frozen plan is DB001, the new plan DB002.   Both plans are overfunded with significant excess assets. DB001 accrued benefit is $12,000/mo, DB002 $1,500/mo.

Both plans terminated in 2018, participant is now 70. The aggregate 415 limit is $14,166.67/month ( C limit) and the aggregate 415 LS (both plans) is $1,799,000. Note the accrued benefits in both plans is $13,500 < 415 limit. The question is how do I apply the 415 limit to each plan? The plan doc says to apply the 415 limit first to DB001. The problem comes from the MPV which impacts the 415 limit even though the total accrued benefits as annuities do not exceed 415. The PVAB ( MPV) is $1,700,00 in DB001 and $225,000 in DB002.

It seems that DB001 pays the full PVAB  and  DB002 get the knife. This doesn't seem right. Is there another approach?

The notice is due by November 1st - is there a limit to how early it can be distributed?  Thanks in advance!

Is anyone else receiving CP259 Notices from the IRS asking for a 945 form for 2016?

I received copies of the notices from two completely unrelated clients, both of which have plans on a recordkeeping platform in which distributions are processed under the recordkeeper's EIN. 

Since we have a small number clients I thought this might not be just a coincidence.

Thanks.

Two companies (A & B) with idential ownership:

owner #1 = 25%; owner #2 = 25%; owner #3 = 25%, owner #4 = 8%; owner #5 = 8%; owner #6 = 4% and owner #7 = 4%.

I've had a brain freeze...where the CG rules state "the same 5 or fewer", it doesn't matter if there are more than 5, just that 5 or fewer own 80% or more, correct?

There will be a significant number of retirees from the company our company in the next year. The company has a significant amount of Cash on the balance sheet that might not all be included in the valuation. The Company and trustee are unwilling to let anyone else review the valuation report. Is there anyway to dispute the valuation on the basis it is too low? The ESOP owns over 70% of the company, but the CEO and CFO seem to be hiding the cash until after the current round of retirements.

 I have a new client who has a solo k. They will have a number of new employees in 2020. We want to set up a new plan for the company plan 002. ( Client want's to keep current plan, but will make all contributions for owner and employees to new plan )

I am thinking that this will be fine but I need o freeze solo k, Solo K has 100% vesting - new plan would not. Are there any BRF issues if solo l is frozen?

I realize I will still need to aggregate for Top Heavy. Any one see any issues here? What it be an issue of the solo k was not frozen?

I am never sure who this is....participants with account balances (both active and non-active), beneficiaries receiving benefits under the plan -

but does it include ALL employees who have met eligibility but have no account balance?  

I have a client that wants to purchase land with his 401k assets and have a non-related party develop it.   It is my understanding that real estate held by a 401k plan can only be a passive investment and that this deal would not meet the requirements.  Do you agree?