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Related Organizations
As part of a plan merger we are looking at one of the plans subject to the merger. Organization has four owners who each have established their own LLC and elected to be tax as an S Corp. Each LLC owns 25% of the organization and is receiving guaranteed payments from the Organization. Each S Corp is then paying W-2 compensation to the owner from proceeds received as guaranteed payments. Current arrangement allows each S Corp to have its own retirement plan and be tested separate from the Organizations plan.
The TPA firm says based on ownership and related that they should not be considered related organizations for retirement plan purposes. The Organization is in a service business.
I am trying to explain the technical reason they should be considered one plan for testing purposes. Any thoughts?
eligibility
While reviewing W-2s for 2017, client informs me one of the employees was employed prior to the effective date of the plan (1/1/16) and was rehired 11/5/16.
Since there was no plan prior to his leaving the company, isn't he treated as a new employee and thus, the waiting period would apply??
Missed Deferral 2016 and 2017 - still fix?
Due to an error in the clients payroll system, a participants deferral was not taken for the plan years 2016 or 2017. They received their 3% SHNE, which was the only employer contribution. With the new 25% corrective contributions, can they still do this?
I just want to make sure when it says "the last day of the second plan year after the plan year in which the failure began (which was 2016) - so that would be by 12/31/18 correct?
Level funded MEWA not self insured? Less than one year?
Hello,
If a MEWA plan is level funded, can it possibly be considered fully-insured? And if it has not existed for a year, does that give us any out from being considered a MEWA? Seller is part of a MEWA and hasn't been in compliance with state insurance laws.
Breaks in service while still employed
Someone was full time and has received discretionary non-elective contributions. They are now seasonal and working 300 hours per year.
Plan doc says forfeit after 5 Breaks in Service. Would you forfeit while still employed?
457b Employer Contribution include annual Catch up?
I am working with a governmental 457b for a hospital. They have multiple plans, of which one that the hospital contributes on the behalf of participants up to the deferral limit. The question is whether the employer is limited at the 402g limit before catch up, or if they can contribute up to the additional annual catch up limit? The employer has contributed $24,000 to a participant for 2017. Do we need to return $6000 so that they are only funding $18,000?
My thinking is that the catch up is only available if the participant actually defers, but not sure.
Thanks!
Board Compensation and Individual 401k Plan
I have a retiree that is interested in starting an individual 401(k) plan to defer some consulting income he is going to receive over the next 3-5 years. He also receives compensation from serving on the Board of Directors for two businesses (paid on a 1099). Does anyone have a resource on whether or not the Board compensation could be deferred into the 401(k) plan?
Merging SH Plan with Non SH Plan
Have two unrelated entities that are merging into a new entity (a type A or C reorg, accountants working out details). They wish to also merge their respective retirement plans. Both calendar year plans. Plan A is a safe harbor 3% QNEC, Plan B is not safe harbor and has a matching contribution.
They wish to merge the Plans asap (during the year) with the new merge entity accepting sponsorship of the merged plans. And want the merge plan to be safe harbor 3%.
I am trying to find guidance on how to handle - can we treat the merged plan as new and adopt SH provisions, do we have to wait until 2019, etc. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Filing Authorization and EIN
Is it a REQUIREMENT for the filing authorization to show the EIN? We've always put it on the form routinely along with the Plan name, number, and Plan Year, but I'm not sure if it is actually a requirement. Just curious...
Type 2 organization - automatically a controlled group?
A NFP ["BCO"] created a Type 2 supporting organization* ["BCU"] for itself last year. According to the accountant, BCU files it's own taxes with it's own EIN and there is a "majority overlap" of the boards, so she is telling us that this should be treated as a controlled group of non-profit organizations.
* "A what?" Right. The CPA gave me this link: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/supporting-organizations-requirements-and-types
There are 4 members of BCU's board... two of whom also sit on BCO's board. BCO is responsible for appointing and removing BCU's board members.
No one told us about this until last week, so even though BCU was established almost a year ago, BCU hasn't adopted BCO's 403(b) plan. Which is fine, actually - no one from BCU was allowed to defer, and there are no HCEs in BCO, so there is no nondiscrimination issue to worry about.
Does anyone have any experience with these "Type 2 supporting organizations" they'd like to share? It certainly sounds like a controlled group, but I figured it couldn't hurt to be sure... thanks.
so much for safe harbor, but...
I've got a plan that is not top heavy. In year 2, the owner realized the safe harbor 3% contribution was going to be too much of an expense. The notice had the usual "we'll warn you at least 30 days out if we suspend the contribution" language in it, and indeed we amended in January 2017 to eliminate the SH, and the employer made the 3% deposits up through mid-February.
So now - I haven't run my ADP test yet, but I'm curious if the plan does fail, would I be able to use the seven weeks of safe harbor contributions in my ADP test? Since safe harbor contributions are technically qualified, I suppose there's a shot of dumping them into the test.
Anyone try this before?
(I haven't thought this out completely yet, but I presume I'll have the owner's own 3% amount working against me.)
The safe harbor was the only 2017 contribution beyond the 401(k). (So I definitely don't want the owner having any QNEC outside the 401(k) test.)
If there's no regulatory hangup to it, I'll then double-check my plan document to make sure there's not further restrictive language. (So at this point, I'm looking for at least theoretical justification.)
Thanks..
-bri
Here Comes Feb. 24, Ready or Not
In five days I will be eligible to withdraw money from my 401(k) without incurring an early distribution penalty. Where does the time go?
Be on the lookout for a 36-year-old red-headed man who started BenefitsLink. Individual was last seen 23 years ago. May have dyed hair and beard gray since last sighting.
Match formula calculation for Excel
Could someone write me a match formula for the following?
Match formula is as follows:
100% of first 4, 33.34% of next 3. So if you put in 7% deferrals, you get 5% match
The last 3%.... payroll calcs it 33.34% for 5, 33.34% for 6, 33.34 for 7%... I know, a little different than what you might expect.
I'm proficient in excel, just not that proficient on the if/then statements.
Thanks
Past SAR's to Lost Participant now found
I think I remember that, regarding disclosures, it is the Participant's responsibility to keep their address up to date.
If a lost participant is found, I think I remember that we do not have to send past notices, SAR, 404, etc. But I cannot remember where I got this idea.
What do you all think? Do we need to send past notices when we find someone?
compensation for calculation of safe harbor match
We administer a safe harbor 401K with Roth only deferrals.
W-2, boxes 1 & 5 are the same dollar amount, employee deferred $5,000.
Wouldn't the deferral (whether Roth or not) be added to box 5 for the calculation of the safe harbor match??
Asset Purchase vs. practice sale
Client is selling his dental practice.
He said the sale is an asset purchase sale not a practice sale so would the new owner be able to continue the current retirement plan. Or do they have to terminate the current plan and start a new one with the new owner?
Any RMD requirement from SRP?
I have a client with a company that sponsors a 401(k) plan, The company also sponsors a Supplemental Retirement Plan for owners and select HCEs and managers. One of the owners is turning age 70 1/2 and must take an RMD from the qualified plan. Is there any requirement for RMDs from the SRP?
Small Balances in PBGC Plan Term
For Participants that don't respond to Distribution Election notices and since you can either buy annuities or pay to the PBGC, does the under $5,000 Lump Sum option exist so that the $1,000 balances can be rolled to IRAs?
Just hoping. Thanks
Clergy Housing Allowance - Contributions and HCE determination
Is the Clergy Housing allowance included for contributions?
Is the Clergy Housing allowance included for HCE determination?
Disability Taxation Continue with Survivor?
Hello,
Would a surviving spouse be eligible for the same tax exemption as the duty disability retiree? I see all kinds of documentation referring to federal tax exemption to the disability retiree but nothing referring me to how taxation works for the person picking up the pension after the death of the disability retiree.
I was given a copy of PLR -167262-03 within it "...the benefits received by the surviving spouse or dependent minor children of a recipient who was receiving service incurred benefits are also excludable from gross income...."
Thanks!











