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    Delayed Audit / Short Plan Year - Interesting Read on Rules

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    DOL Regs 2520.104-50 regarding short plan years/deferral of audit report.

    (b) Deferral of accountant's report. A plan administrator is not required to include the report of an independent qualified public accountant in the annual report for the first of two consecutive plan years, one of which is a short plan year, provided that the following conditions are satisfied:

    (1) The annual report for the first of the two consecutive plan years shall include:

    (i) Financial statements and accompanying schedules prepared in conformity with the requirements of section 103(b) of the Act and regulations promulgated thereunder;

    See 103(b) from US Code (definition of financial statements)

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/29/1023

    Taken from this link:

    (2)

    With respect to an employee pension benefit plan: a statement of assets and liabilities, and a statement of changes in net assets available for plan benefits which shall include details of revenues and expenses and other changes aggregated by general source and application. In the notes to financial statements, disclosures concerning the following items shall be considered by the accountant: a description of the plan including any significant changes in the plan made during the period and the impact of such changes on benefits; the funding policy (including policy with respect to prior service cost), and any changes in such policies during the year; a description of any significant changes in plan benefits made during the period; a description of material lease commitments, other commitments, and contingent liabilities; a description of agreements and transactions with persons known to be parties in interest; a general description of priorities upon termination of the plan; information concerning whether or not a tax ruling or determination letter has been obtained; and any other matters necessary to fully and fairly present the financial statements of such pension plan.
     
    So it pretty much sounds like in the first of the 2 years you need to include full financial statements?  I have never done this, and my 5500 software has never provided a validation error and my filings done based on this rule have never been rejected?
     
    Anyone have any thoughts??

    Prevailing Wage in a 403b

    austin3515
    By austin3515,

    I don;t understand how a non-profit could be subject to prevailing wage laws,, but it has something to do with their clients working on federal projects under some "put people to work" program.

    Anyone see any reason why this cannot be done in a 403b plan?


    Favorite productivity software?

    Dave Baker
    By Dave Baker,

    What software do you use that you wouldn't give up unless they pried your cold, dead fingers from the keyboard?

    Mine: ClipMate (for Windows). Records every copied item, so I can copy (contol-C) multiple text items in sequence and then go back to fetch any one or more of them (for purposes of pasting into a new text document, for example). The standard Windows clipboard (control-C) only holds one copied item at a time, and overwrites any earlier-copied item.

    I can even paste the earlier-copied items one by one into an ordered list in a new text document, by hitting control-V repeatedly.


    Tax Reform for TPA's

    ERISAd and confused
    By ERISAd and confused,

    Does any body who owns or runs a TPA have a good grasp how tax reform may affect our industry?  If so I'd be interested in your thoughts on whether your typical TPA is a "Professional Services Firm".  Would be nice to take advantage of the 20% deduction on pass through income if it's available for a lowly pension administrator :).


    QDRO Assistance

    Derry Ex
    By Derry Ex,

    My Ex-husband and i were divorced 3 years ago. I completed the QDRO paperwork, paid for the processing and received a response back from the administrator stating there were no funds in the account. Any suggestions on what or how to proceed collecting from my Ex the funds that were in the decree? FYI, my attorney took another job and doesn't return my calls so I'm really in limbo at this point. 


    Highly Compensated and post-severance compensation

    Belgarath
    By Belgarath,

    403(b) plan for a 501(c)(3) organization - now owners. A highly compensated employee terminates on, say, 12/31/2015. Receives a last paycheck in early January of 2016. A deferral is withheld from that final paycheck in 2016. Plan has a last-day requirement for match, so no match received on that 2016 deferral.

    When testing for coverage/nondiscrimination, is he counted as a HC for 2016? Or since he formally terminated employment on 12/31/2015, is he not considered HC for 2016?

    P.S. - don't waste any time on this, as it is purely "idle" curiosity - didn't have any effect on any testing, etc.


    Form 5330 - Excise Tax Deductibility for Federal and CA Return

    khidalgo
    By khidalgo,

    I paid excise tax for an LLC (Form 5330) relating to employee benefit plans and just wondering if this is a deductible expense for the federal and CA state return. Hoping for some insights. Thanks!


    Correcting Safe Harbor Plan

    Madison71
    By Madison71,

    Last year, Plan Sponsor amended their document mid-year to change from a safe harbor non-elective to a safe harbor match.  A new notice was issued and safe harbor matching contributions have been made ever since.  Previously, the plan provided for a discretionary match as well. I understand that this was an impermissible change mid-year re-Notice 2016-16 and needs to be corrected.  However, I am inquiring on thoughts on how to best correct this issue.  I'm also struggling on the match piece as participants likely signed up once changed to the safe harbor match in expectation that they would receive 4%. 

    Thank you!


    SEP and 401k in same year

    AKconsult
    By AKconsult,

    There seems to be a consensus, based on various Q&As on this forum, that an employer cannot maintain a 5305-SEP and a 401k in the same year.  I am not sure I agree with that.  Can someone please provide a source for this?  I see on the IRS website that an employer may not use a Form 5305--SEP if it maintains any other qualified plan -"maintained" means even if no contributions are made - but if an employer terminated the SEP as of 2/28/18 and then started up a 401(k) plan on 3/1/18, wouldn't that be acceptable?  In that instance, the employer is not "maintaining" both plans.  Yes, it would have had both plans in 2018, but they weren't maintained at the same time.  I can't find anything from the IRS that would prohibit this fact pattern.  Any thoughts?  Thanks!


    Including Owner taking Draw (no W-2) in ADP Testing?

    lcollins300
    By lcollins300,

    We have a 401(k) plan sponsored by a Limited Partnership (Hotel) where one of the 5%+ owners is a working manager taking draws but no W-2 wages.  Would she be included in ADP testing?  Her daughter also works for the hotel but does receive W-2 wages (she owns 2.5%).  Definition of compensation per the plan doc is W-2 (no exclusions).

     


    Roth Buy Back

    Mr Bagwell
    By Mr Bagwell,

    Two Buy Backs in one year..... yikes.  Never experience one, yet two in 3 months....

    An employee deferred Roth to a 401k prior to us.  He also had pre tax monies.  Said employee terminated and rolled Roth dollars to a Roth IRA.  Rolled pretax dollars to IRA.  $15k in forfeitures at time of distributions.  Employee wants to restore his dollars to get the forfeitures back.

    What are your thoughts on Roth buy-back?  Specifically, the Roth start year.

    I see you can't Roll a Roth IRA to 401k.  But we aren't talking about a Rolling back....

    The Roth start year starts over when Roth from 401k goes to Roth IRA.....  probably why you can't roll Roth IRA to 401k.....

    And then there is the IRA provider (E-trade).

    If the Roth can be brought back into the plan.  How would you handle the Roth start year situation?


    401(k) Safe Harbor Match Controlled Group

    TPA2015
    By TPA2015,

    Company A and Company B form a controlled group.  Company A sponsors a safe harbor match 401(k) Plan, which Company B has adopted as a participating employer.  There is one employee, who receives compensation from both entities, but all of the deferrals have been made through Company A.  For purposes of calculating the safe harbor match, I believe I should aggregate the compensation from both companies.  For deduction purposes, should the safe harbor match contribution for this person be divided prorata based on compensation, or should the entire deduction be taken by Company A, since the deferrals were made by the employee from his Company A compensation. 


    Gateway Minimum in a Top Heavy Plan with Participation Compensation

    Towanda
    By Towanda,

    I have a Top Heavy Safe Harbor/Cross Tested Plan.

    Compensation for plan purposes is participation compensation.  Obviously, the Top Heavy Minimum must use the entire year's compensation.

    Must the Gateway therefore be based on the entire year's compensation?

     


    First time 5500 ez for a 15 year old account

    Raj
    By Raj,

    I have a one man Corp since 2003 and opened a 401k solo plan with fidelity. I am finding value of this portfolio crossed threshold of  250k. So I plan filing 5500EZ by March 15 i.e when I file company taxes.

     

    How far back can IRS audit this? How will they know who much actually I deposited each year etc considering stock market changes and I lost money few years.  It should have been 250K in 13  years considering my deposit have been 20k each year. Is it normal for solo accounts?


    Can we count K-1 earnings....2 companies

    ldr
    By ldr,

    We have a client who owns two companies and both have employees including himself.  One is a corporation; the other is a LLC.  He has W-2 wages of about $190,000 from the corporation and over a million from the LLC.   Both companies are adopting employers to the same retirement plan and all employees are covered for both entities.

    Question:  In calculating the maximum benefit he can have for 2017, are we allowed to use both his W-2 wages plus enough K-1 income to get him up to the maximum we can take into account for the year of $270,000?  Our gut reaction is "yes" but one of us has some doubts.

    We are grateful for any help!

     

     

     

     


    Plan Amendment to use Forfeitures to fund SH Contributions

    401_noob
    By 401_noob,

    Has anyone seen any successful document amendments for Plans to begin using forfeitures to fund SH contributions? 

    I was hoping that FIS Relius would have released their good-faith amendments by now, but as I understand it they haven't.

    https://www.relius.net/News/TechnicalUpdateDetails.aspx?T=P&1=1&ID=1103 

    Thanks in advance! 


    Settlement of a Benefit Claim - How to Report

    TaxLawyer1978
    By TaxLawyer1978,

    A company incorrectly made contributions to a defined contribution plan on behalf of an employee for over 20 years.  The employee received  monthly statement and was told a year prior to retirement she had excess of $120K in benefits in the account.  Error was discovered and funds forfeited, but the company settled with her on the side to pay her the amount of the benefit.  

    Question:  what kind of W2 compensation is this reportable as? Is this wages that go in box 1? It was agreed that 2/3 of the settlement amount would be W2 and 1/3 reported on a 1099-MISC.

    Thanks in advance. 


    PS plan - company being sold

    thepensionmaven
    By thepensionmaven,

    We currently administer a profit sharing plan, the employer may possibly be selling the business.  The purchaser will be buying the assets of the company and changing the name of the company, as well.

    I know you can't have a plan w/o a sponsor, but is there a specific time limit (excluding the IRS12 month rule) within which to distribute, rollover, etc. after the company is no longer in business.


    Welfare combined plan document and SPD

    Flyboyjohn
    By Flyboyjohn,

    More employers are finally trying to comply with the ERISA plan document and SPD requirements for their welfare benefit plans.

    I've encountered several law firms that are preparing a single document that they represent is BOTH the ERISA welfare plan document and Summary Plan Description (maybe the law firms are using the same 3rd party welfare document vendor?).

    Seems to me this approach is fundamentally flawed, that ERISA requires they be 2 separate documents with different purposes. In the qualified plan arena I can't imagine trying to use the plan document as the SPD or vice versa.

    Interested in what others think of this approach.

     


    2 EMPLOYEE RETIREMENT PLAN _ TOP HEAVY

    RRivera
    By RRivera,

    Hello, 

    My employer retirement plan is based on two employees. The owner and an employee. However, testing resulted in the owner being top heavy at 64%. However, they are a Safe Harbor at 4% as well as the prior year. 

    My question, is there any additional requirement on part of the owner on contributions? 

    Thanks 

     

     


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