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    Are SEP Contributions included in ABT

    Lori Foresz
    By Lori Foresz,

    Hi,

    Client has a cross-tested 401k and a SEP.

    Do the SEP contributions need to be included in the ABT?

    Thanks


    Re-amortizing 401(k) loans is no longer permitted

    Guest Spock
    By Guest Spock,

    I am a corporate benefit manager. My 401(k) provider, a large well known mutual fund company, informed me that the IRS no longer permits participants to re-amortize their 401(k) loan. That's news to me; did I miss something? I through a participant could reamortize their (non-principal residence) 401(k) loan as long as they did not extend beyond 5-years from the loan originanation date. Has anybody heard anything that can shed some light on that subject for me?

    S


    Earned Income & Additional Medicare Tax

    Nate X
    By Nate X,

    For plan years after 2012, does the new additional medicare tax reduce a self-employed person's earned income for retirement plan purposes?


    Using forfeitures to pay earnings

    30Rock
    By 30Rock,

    Do you think forfeitures (which under the plan can be used to pay plan expenses and reduce future employer contributions) can be used to pay earnings under 2 scenarios - 1. late deferral deposits, 2. missed contributions - i.e. missed match. Can I use forfeitures to fund these earnings?

    Thanks!


    Match due to 401(k) plan

    R. Butler
    By R. Butler,

    Plan sponsors filed their taxes based on cash basis deposits. Turns out they owed a somehwta sif=gnifican tmatching contribution to a couple of employees.

    Plan sponsor does not want to pay to have the tax return amended and will deduct on the 2014 return. Will they count as annual additions for 2014 now?

    Thanks in advance for any guidance.


    Participant Count on Form 5500 Considering new Excluded Class of Employees

    RPP2001
    By RPP2001,

    A 2014 calendar year plan is amended to begin excluding a class of employees as of 7/1/14. If this occurs and there are employees that had previously met the plan's eligibility and entry requirements and were previously considered "participants" in the plan even though they do not have account balances, are they considered participants in the plan effective 7/1/14 due to the amendment? This plan requires an audit for 2014, but, depending on this answer, it may drop below 100 participants as of 1/1/15 which would allow the plan to not have an audit requirement for 2015. So, the question is definitely with regards to how a participant is defined for Form 5500 purposes.


    dividends received after participant is paid out

    k man
    By k man,

    is the plan legally required to post the dividend and then make a second distribution to the terminated and paid out participant or can they forfeit the dividends received after the participant is no longer part of the plan? i am not aware of any legal authority on the subject.


    SIMPLE correction procedures

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    A SIMPLE-IRA plan covers only owner and spouse (no other EEs). They have been depositing $$$ into the plan for several years. It was just now discovered that their W-2s were not reflecting the contributions they made to the plan.

    Is there any problem with the SIMPLE as a result of this? I think any corrections would involve revised W-2's and amended tax filings for all those years, which would presumably result in a nice retoractive refund. But the SIMPLE would not need to be fixed or corrected, is that right?

    Thanks - Mike


    Kinetic Kids

    Andy the Actuary
    By Andy the Actuary,
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    Form 1099-R for In Plan Roth Transfer

    TPA Bob
    By TPA Bob,

    I am unable to find any guidance on how an in-plan roth transfer is reported to the IRS. Anyone have any thoughts?

    Thanks.


    SE-Tax for Canadian owner/participant

    justanotheradmin
    By justanotheradmin,

    I have a self-employed individual who has a solo-401(k). Typically, I perform the classic circular calculation involved with SE-tax to arrive at plan compensation and contribution amounts.

    This particular individual has a written exemption to US Social Security taxes because of employment activities and coverage in the Canada Pension Plan.

    How does this affect my SE-Tax calculation?

    Anyone have any links to reading material on this? IRS website?


    Self Employed Income Multiple Partnerships

    Stevo-PDX
    By Stevo-PDX,

    Here’s an interesting compensation question:

    Partnership 1 is owned by Company A, Partnership 2 and Person C.

    Partnership 2 is 100% owned by Person C.

    Partnership 2 received a K-1 from Partnership 1

    Person C receives a K-1 from Partnership 1

    Person C receives a K-1 from Partnership 2

    Retirement plan is sponsored by Partnership 1

    Partnership 2 is not a sponsor of the retirement plan (neither is Company A).

    The CPA believes that “pension law” dictates that the K-1 pass-through income from Partnership 2 onto IRS form 1040 Schedule E for Person C should be included for Plan Compensation purposes. My gut feeling is that Person C nor Partnership 2 are adopting employers to the plan and only the K-1 from Partnership 1 is Plan Compensation and only their K-1 from Partnership 1 is eligible Plan Compensation subject to the an EIC.

    If Partnership 2 adopted the plan too, that seems to resolve this question going forward except Person C’s ownership in Partnership 1 would only total 34%.

    Should the K-1 self employment income from Partnership 2 be included in the eligible plan compensation?

    Thanks


    Defaulted Loan

    bzorc
    By bzorc,

    Participant took a 401(k) loan, proceeds of which came from his Roth 401(k) source. Participant has left the company and cannot repay the loan. Question is: Is the default considered taxable? I have never encountered this before, and the 1099-R received by the participant for 2013 indicates that the entire defaulted balance is a taxable event. To me this seems as if this is being double taxed.

    Any replies would be helpful, thanks!


    Federal Poverty Line Safe Harbor

    Guest velazro1
    By Guest velazro1,

    In applying the 9.50% of the "Federal Poverty Line" for a single individual in the state where the employee is employed also apply if he is covering his dependents too. In other words, do I apply the 9.50% x$11,670.00=$1,108.50/12+ $92.38, even if I'm covering 1 or more dependents?


    control group testing

    EBDI
    By EBDI,

    I believe these two LLC's are a control group. Owner A and Owner B each own 50% of LLC #1.

    Owner A owns 26% of LLC #2 and Owner B also owns 26% of LLC #2. Owner C owns 49% of LLC #2. None of the owners are related. There are 5 or fewer individuals who own 80% or more of LLC #1 and 5 or fewer who own more than 50% of LLC #2. This would be a brother sister control group, correct?

    LLC #1 has a safe harbor non elective 401k plan. LLC #2 does not have a retirement plan. LLC #2 has one employee. I have read that a safe harbor plan and a non safe harbor plan cannot be aggregated for testing. How about a safe harbor plan and no retirement plan situation? Do I have to include the employee of LLC #2 if she met eligibility in the 410B coverage testing?


    Should be an easy eligibility question, but not really

    Santo Gold
    By Santo Gold,

    We have a 401(k) plan with eligibility of age 21, One year of service (1000 hours). Plan entry is 1/1 and 7/1. Initial eligibility starts from date of hire. This applies to all contributions in the plan.

    A participant was hired on 7/2/2012 who was over age 21, still employed, and worked more than 1000 hours easily (is full time). Does she enter the plan on 7/1/13 or 1/1/14?

    The eligibility period in the document states: "means a 12 consecutive month period beginning with an Employee's Employment Commencement Date and each anniversary thereof".

    Would you say that the employee satisfies the One Year of Service on July 1, 2013 or July 2, 2013? I think the 12 month period ends on July 1, 2013 in which case I would put her in on 7/1/13.

    But reading the above document language, the "anniversary date thereof" would (to me) mean the initial eligibility period ends July 2, 2013, which puts her in the plan January 1, 2014. But if this is correct, doesn't that really make the eligibility period one year plus one day? Is that really what is intended?

    Thanks


    Too much employer deposit!

    justanotheradmin
    By justanotheradmin,

    Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Rev. Ruling 80-155?

    A client dumped a whole bunch of money into her plan in 2013 and now is upset that we are allocating all of it towards 2013. It is a cross tested plan, so the principals reach their 415 long before the entire amount is allocated, so the NHCE end up getting a really large profit sharing to use up all of the deposits. The deposits do not exceed the 404 deduction limit.

    She is the kind that need the source material, so from what I can find, Rev. Ruling 80-155 is what I need to send her. I can only find a couple of IRS items that reference 80-155, not the actual text itself.

    The plan document says that participants are limited to 415, and if the 415 excess is due to a discretionary employer contribution, that the contribution is simply limited to not violate 415 for those participants.

    If not Rev Ruling 80-155, then some other good source material?

    Thanks!


    404 prior pan year deductions

    Draper55
    By Draper55,

    Section 404(a)(1)(A)(i) contains a parenthetical clause .....(or for any prior plan year). It seems that this subsection is now bypassed for single employer plans and instead goes straight to 404(o) which does not have any reference to prior plan years. 404(o) seems to read that the deductible amount is the larger of the cushion type maximum and the minimum for plan years ending with or within the taxable year.

    Was this intentional(assuming I am reading it correctly) or can we still deduct minimum contributions for a prior plan year made during the taxable year which were not previouly deducted. I am reproducing the relevant language from 404(o) below:

    (o) Deduction limit for single-employer plans

    For purposes of subsection (a)(1)(A)—
    (1) In general
    In the case of a defined benefit plan to which subsection (a)(1)(A) applies (other than a multiemployer plan), the amount determined under this subsection for any taxable year shall be equal to the greater of—
    (A) the sum of the amounts determined under paragraph (2) with respect to each plan year ending with or within the taxable year, or
    (B) the sum of the minimum required contributions under section 430 for such plan years.
    Is the language "each plan year" used to cover a situation where you would have a short year and a regular year both ending in the same taxable year?

    Safe harbor contribution for non-equity partner

    Guest Hnicolas
    By Guest Hnicolas,

    I'm trying I sort through a situation I'm facing, and I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks in advance.

    Assume a small law firm with two tiered partners - equity and non-equity partners. Non-equity partners are paid a guaranteed salary, do not get a portion of profits, and are not responsible for debts.

    Firm tells the non-equity partners they must pay the safe harbor amounts out of salary - 1/3 of the amount it would take the Highly Compensated participants to max out.

    Question: Should the employer or the non-equity partner pay this match? Where should I look for more information on this?

    Again, thank you for any advice or information.


    Mistakenly opened IRA

    Guest Rcrich
    By Guest Rcrich,

    Opened a traditional ira in my wife's name for the tax break, this year. Didn't realize she is in a retirement plan at her work and our income is too high for the contribution to be tax deductible. It just funded today. Any way to get out of it and/ or transfer it to my name so we can get the tax break. My income doesn't involve a retirement plan.

    If I am stuck with it, am I correct that I have put already taxed money into an account that is going to be taxed again when we withdraw it at 59 1/2?

    I know, stupid!...thanks for any info


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