I'm having a bit of a disagreement with some of my colleagues. The issue is what amounts are totaled for purposes of the 409A separation pay plan exception. We can't agree on whether amounts that are exempt from 409A under the short term deferral exception are counted against the total permitted be paid out pursuant to a separation pay plan.
In other words, is the following permissible:
409A separation from service, participant receives a lump sum of $200,000.
One year later, (beyond the short term deferral period), participant receives an additional $400,000.
Clearly, the first amount is exempt under the short term deferral excpetion. The question is, is the second?
I'd love to know your thoughts.