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You don't have a single employer plan. If you are talking about a dc plan, you have a MEP and that's likely OK, though you need to treat each w-2 employer separately. If you are talking HW benefits, you probably have a MEWA, and if that's the case, things can get very ugly, particularly if the plan is self-insured.
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If it were me, I would have employer C adopt employer B's plan as an adopting employer, and not bother with old plan, new plan, and then transfer plan sponsorship. No mess, no reason for the regulators to think there was an actual new plan. (Because there really isn't) By the way, Treas Reg 1.414(r)-5(d) applies when the employers are in the same line of business, but everything is happening due to corporate transaction. It's a pathwy to dealing with merger situations where there are some changes to benefits that would not be allowable under 401(b)(6)(C).
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Consider these additional questions: Does Company C plan just cover Company B employees? Is Company C plan providing the same benefit as the Company B plan, or are the benefits different? Have you looked at the QSLOB rules? Particularly Treas Reg 1.414(r)-5(d)?
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Expenses paid from Pension Trust
Alonzo Church replied to TheBoxMan's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
If the meeting was to fly down to the company worksite to explain the valuation, I don't see why charging the trust is a problem. It's an administrative expense, and probably allowed for in whatever engagement letter the company signed with the actuarial firm. if there was any other business carried on at the meetings that involved plan design or corporate liability calculations, the travel expense probably need to be allocated between the company and the trust. -
Dual Plan Provisions, need experts advice
Alonzo Church replied to stephen20's topic in Plan Document Amendments
Stephen20. I would think a plan like you describe would have a last day of the plan year rule for the profit sharing contributions. If it doesn't, I would be worried about setting up account for employees who have already left, and then finding and cashing those people out. I think you will want to suggest that tweak to your client going forward. -
Dual Plan Provisions, need experts advice
Alonzo Church replied to stephen20's topic in Plan Document Amendments
The program you describe is legal and unusual. One question -- are the profit sharing contributions made in each payroll, or is there a one time contribution after the year ends? -
Make sure that you suggest in writing that the client have the amendment reviewed by counsel. Also, you may want to be sure the amendment does not take your plan out of prototype (if the plan is a prototype.)
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Divorce and marriage confirmation
Alonzo Church replied to Aratnmot's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
For an optional form of benefit, the critical factor is the marital status at the time of benefit commencement. Your plan may have a one-year requirement as to marriage, but most plans do not. As Mr. Zeller indicates, you may be eligible to designate a non-spouse beneficiary as well. (I would assume you know if this were the case already, but it's best to check.) -
joel: I am not an expert in New York law, which is what governs here. But a quick google unearths this: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pdf/advisory_opinions/income/a05_3i.pdf If you have a problem with the legal interpretation here, have at it. But, as you have seen, this group is not going to dispute the opinion of a regulator acting in the area of its authority.
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Divorce and marriage confirmation
Alonzo Church replied to Aratnmot's topic in Defined Benefit Plans, Including Cash Balance
If you don't want to pay for a QDRO, you could remarry before the benefit commencement date and get divorced again after the pension starts. Don't commit fraud. You could end up losing your partner his/her benefit. -
Employees are entitled to COBRA benefits from PEO at 102% of the "cost of coverage". If an employee ends up being charged less than that and gets the coverage, all good. If the fee is more, or the PEO discontinues coverage, that's a COBRA violation unless they discontinue coverage for all their employees.
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This is a plan document thing and how its worded. Frankly, I would think you would want language including all programs automatically to avoid accidentally missing a filing when an excluded plan gets over 100. (A missed schedule A is an amended return. A missed filing is correspondence with the DoL and a penalty.)
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I think there is a potential issue with each rate of match being available to a nondiscriminatory group of employees, if you don't do a 414(s) test on the compensation. As an extreme example, assume the only people who don't have commission comp are the HCEs and there is a 4% of comp max on the match. the HCEs can receive a 4% of comp match. But a llot of the NHCEs can only get a match equal to 3.5%, 3%, etc on their comp.
