JDuns Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 The proposed regulations under 414(v) indicate that catch-up contributions are disregarded for a number of tests, however, 401(a)(4) is not on that list. My question is: can the catch-up contributions be disregarded when doing the general test?
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted July 22, 2002 Posted July 22, 2002 Yes. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
JDuns Posted July 23, 2002 Author Posted July 23, 2002 Do you have any authority for the opinion that the catch-up contribution is disregarded when performing the general test?
MWeddell Posted July 23, 2002 Posted July 23, 2002 Also the in the proposed regulations released last fall under Code Section 414(v).
JDuns Posted July 23, 2002 Author Posted July 23, 2002 Please forgive me if I am beating a dead horse but I am still not sure I agree. I do agree that 414(v)(3)(B) states that a "plan shall not be treates as failing to meet the requirements of section 401(a)(4) ... by reason of the making of (or the right to make) such contributions. So I agree that the code section would support the exclusion of catch-up contributions (but not any match attributable thereto) from the general test. I am a little concerned that the regulations do not say that (or even imply it). I note that Proposed regulation 1.414(v)-1(d)(3) (titled - "availability of CU contributions") states that the catch up contribution does not violate 1.401(a)(4)-4 "merely because the group of employees for whom the CU contributions are currently available." I read this reg. section as there is not a BRF issue when offering CU contributions. The reference to 401(a)(4) is conspicuously missing from 1.414(v)-1(d)(2) "contributions not taking into account for certain nondiscrimination tests".
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