Guest Gunner Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 Client has referenced "Anti Manipulation" rule to state that they need to suspend all contributions for six months following an after-tax in-service withdrawal. I cannot find anything to support this although I have seen plan documents which include A/T suspension following A/T wdr. Any guidance?
Guest Therese Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 Does the plan match after-tax contributions? If not, what does the employer think is being manipulated?
Kirk Maldonado Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 The manipulation is as follows: 1. Employee makes after-tax contributions for January 2. Employee receives a matching contribution 3. Employee withdraws after-tax contribution in February 4. Employee contributes the same dollars in February 5. Employee receives a second match on the same dollars in February Thus, an employee could receive an unlimited number of sets of matching contributions by recycling the same dollars. Kirk Maldonado
david rigby Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 Hey Kirk, where can I sign up for that plan? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Guest Therese Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 Kirk - that's what I was thinking of too, but the original post doesn't mention a match.
Kirk Maldonado Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 Therese: I can't think of any other type of manipulation that could occur. Kirk Maldonado
RTK Posted September 19, 2002 Posted September 19, 2002 The IRS addressed this rule in Rev. Ruls. 74-55 and 74-56
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