Casey Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 Hi, A client's TPA is advising them to limit/deny plan loans where the repayment amount would exceed a stated percentage of the participant's paycheck. I believe they were recommending 25-30%. TPA says lot of plan's doing this. Concern - Is this now the norm, and if so, what is the motivation, legally - Is there a new piece of guidance indicating this is a requirement? I can see it as a factor the plan MAY consider, as it is a factor which "would be considered in a normal commercial setting by an entity in the business of making similar types of loans" (DOL reg.) But is it a MUST do? Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Casey
jaemmons Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 If it is applied uniformly, disclosed in the SPD and Loan Policy, and does not discriminate in favor of HCE's, I feel the employer would be permitted to apply this restriction. If the employer is adopting this restriction as part of its objective review process for approving loans, I don't see any problem.
Mike Preston Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 Just playing devil's advocate here. How does it possibly not discriminate in favor of HCE's? Wouldn't 25%-30% of an HCE's salary tend to be higher than the same percentage of an NHCE's salary? How does the Plan Administrator demonstrate that the imposition of this percentage limitation is not a defacto mechanism for discriminating as to the loan amount for NHCE's?
jaemmons Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 Mike, If an employer wants to place a uniform restriction that they feel would prevent financial hardship to the employee and/or possible loan default, don't you think they could have it as part of the loan approval process. I guess from my view point, although I don't draft this type of criteria in my clients loan policies, it boils down to a facts and circumstances demonstration, as it seems, from the original post, to be a uniform objective criteria that the plan administrator wishes to use in its loan approval/denial process. What do you think?
Mike Preston Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 As I said, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. But you didn't answer my question, did you? How does one demonstrate that the policy itself is not discriminatory? I honestly don't know how I'd go about that if the DOL came in and said something like: "We don't like it, tell us why we should let you keep doing this."
jaemmons Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 What if the employer/plan adminstrator stated that..."If the interest rate must be "reasonable", based upon local lending institution rates, why can't we use similar debt/equity (based upon the payment amount to what they earn) analysis a a bank would review for loan approval? We are using the same objective criteria for what we feel an employee can afford to repay, without causing a future loan default or application for financial hardship." I guess they could demonstrate that this "cap" has not been violated by any hce which should be able to serve as a good faith application of their current loan policy.
Mike Preston Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 Personally, I think it should be a fine thing to do. I just wonder if anybody at the DOL would have a problem with it. Maybe not.
E as in ERISA Posted March 26, 2003 Posted March 26, 2003 The HCE requirement relates primarily to the amount of the loan. The "reasonably equivalent basis" requirement is the one that allows you to consider the creditworthiness and other factors that a commercial lender would.
Casey Posted March 27, 2003 Author Posted March 27, 2003 Hi, I don't seemed to have framed my question well... I most want to know if folks think: - there is a requirement that plans consider the participant's ability to pay/limit the loan based on the ratio of the periodic loan payment amount to the participant's periodic pay check amount; and - Has anyone run into this? is it common? I did find the responses interesting for analysis, but if anyone can answer the above I would be most grateful! thx, Casey
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