Guest wcoleman Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 We have an existing top heavy 401(k) plan that is considering a change to a safe harbor match beginning 1/1/04. The employer will cease to make any further discretionary profit sharing contributions. Since the plan has accumulated balances in the employer discretionary profit sharing source, can they qualify for the top heavy exception?
KJohnson Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 Generally the informal guidance is yes, but watch out for your forfeitures. Allocation of forfeitures from the profit sharing portion of the plan could "blow" your top heavy exception.
david rigby Posted May 21, 2003 Posted May 21, 2003 This is Q&A 2003-35 from the Gray Book: QUESTION 35 DC Plans: Safe Harbor 401(k) Plans, Top-Heavy Exemption If a plan that is intended to be a safe harbor 401(k) plan also provides for a separate profit sharing contribution (which may be discretionary), does the 401(k) part of the plan lose the exemption from top-heavy under Code section 416(g)(4)(H), as added by EGTRRA? Does it matter whether a profit sharing contribution is actually made or not under the profit sharing provision for a given year? RESPONSE If a profit sharing contribution is actually made, the top-heavy exemption is lost. The exemption does apply if there is no actual profit sharing contribution. The safest course of action is to have two separate plans. Copyright © 2003, Enrolled Actuaries Meeting All rights reserved by Enrolled Actuaries Meeting. Permission is granted to print or otherwise reproduce a limited number of copies of the material on the diskette for personal, internal, classroom, or other instructional use, on the condition that the foregoing copyright notice is used so as to give reasonable notice of the copyright of the Enrolled Actuaries Meeting. This consent for free limited copying without prior consent of the Enrolled Actuaries Meeting does not extend to making copies for general distribution, for advertising or promotional purposes, for inclusion in new collective works, or for sale or resale. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
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