Sully Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 Assume a 401(k) plan with a June 30 plan year end. Participant with the following employee 401(k) contribution history: 7/1/01 – 6/30/02 $0 contributions 7/1/02 – 12/3/02 12,000 1/1/03 – 6/30/03 14,000 7/1/02 – 6/30/03 26,000 (total deferrals for the plan year) What would be the maximum profit sharing contribution for this employee for the 7/1/02 – 6/30/03 plan year? A) 16,000 (able to use the 2,000 catch-up contribution) or B) 15,000 (because he already used 1,000 of his catch up contribution in the 2002 calendar year)
Brian Gallagher Posted August 1, 2003 Posted August 1, 2003 I don't have an answer, but what's the limitation year? Does it agree with the plan year? Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Guest pjb Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 Maximum catch-up for 2003 is $2,000 Maximum 415 is $40,000 Non-catchup deferrals for 2002 = $11,000 2003 deferrals = $14,000 Result: $42,000 - $25,000 = $17,000
Sully Posted August 4, 2003 Author Posted August 4, 2003 Based on above post: Deferrals during plan year = $26,000 Profit Sharing for plan year = $17,000 Total annual additions = $43,000 Is that possible? I thought the maximum catch-up for 2003 was $2,000 and, therefore, the maximum annual additions could only be $42,000.
E as in ERISA Posted August 4, 2003 Posted August 4, 2003 As of 12/31/02, $1,000 of the $12,000 will have been re-characterized as catch-ups under 402(g). That uses up the 2002 catch-up dollar amount. At 1/1/03, you start fresh again on the catch-up dollar amount. As of 6/30/03, $2,000 of the $14,000 will have been re-characterized as catch-ups under 402(g). That uses up the 2003 catch-up dollar amount. Of the total $26,000 of elective deferrals, only $23,000 is considered when performing the 415 test. You calculate the profit sharing contribution based on the formula. If the total of that contribution plus the $23,000 exceeds $40,000, then you correct the excess according to the plan terms. (It is possible that part of the $23,000 is returned to the participant and that the profit sharing contribution will be more than $17,000).
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