Guest ljansen Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 I am a CPA auditing a 401(k) plan. The plan is a prototype plan. The employer has always used Oct-1 and Apr-1 as entry dates, though plan doc states Jan-1 and Jul-1. An employee began deferring on Oct-1, his first entry date after the plan's required 6 months of service. Subsequent to the plan year-end, it was determined he was not eligible. The administrator instructed the trustee to refund the contributions less fees and investment losses. They then enacted an amendment to reflect the Oct-1 and Apr-1 entry dates, though not retroactively. Is it proper to deduct fees and investment losses if he was deemed inelgible? Should this be reported as a distribution payable at year-end? The administrator is not including this participant on their year-end reports at all - no contributions, no balance, no loss allocation. However, his contribution receivable is included in total contributions receivable at year-end.
Guest rmeigs Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Does deal with all the issues, but this link may be helpful: Elective Deferral Contribution Made by an Ineligible Employee http://www.mhco.com/Chronological_Updates/...%20Employee.htm
Guest philc Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 And don't forget to coordinate the new entry dates with 410(a)(4).
Brian Gallagher Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 what about all the other people? operational failure? VCR? Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Brian, I don't understand your concern. Please explain. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Guest oxdougw Posted October 10, 2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Wouldn't this be treated as a mistake of fact. Remove the distribution, pay it to the non-participant as wages and any gain would be left in the plan, or loss made up by the employer outside the plan.
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