Guest Taxman Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 Can someone provide me with the exact Regulatory cite that says when an ADP failure is corrected by refunded excess deferrals that the match attributable to those deferrals is also forfeited? What if there is immediate vesting for matching contributions, do the Regs. trump this nonforfeitability and allow them to be forfeited? All help is appreciated.
g8r Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 It's from Regulation 1.401(m)-1. The relevant paragraph is below (I obtained this through benefitslink source materials, but it's impossible to figure out the specific subsection). The issue comes up where you refund deferrals and there is a related match on those deferrals. The resulting rate of match is a problem under 401(a)(4). You then have two options - either forfeit the related match (even if it is fully vested), or increase the rate of match for NHCEs so that it is no longer discriminatory. After this section there is an example that goes through the process. First, refund the deferrals, then correct any ACP test failure (there you can refund a match to the extent vested), and then deal with the related match problem. 4) Coordination with section 401(a)(4). A matching contribution is taken into account under section 401(a)(4) even if it is distributed, unless the distributed contribution is an excess aggregate contribution. However, the method of distributing excess aggregate contributions provided in the plan must satisfy the requirements of section 401(a)(4). This requires that after correction each level of matching contributions be currently and effectively available to a group of employees that satisfies section 410(b). See Sec. 1.401(a)(4)-4(e)(3)(iii)(G). Thus, a plan that provides the same rate of matching contributions to all employees will not meet the requirements of section 401(a)(4) if employee contributions are distributed under this paragraph (e) to highly compensated employees to the extent needed to meet the requirements of section 401(m)(2), while matching contributions attributable to employee contributions remain allocated to the highly compensated employees' accounts. See Sec. 1.411(a)-4(b)(7) for a rule that allows forfeiture of these matching contributions to avoid a violation of section 401(a)(4). See also Sec. 1.401(a)(4)-11(g)(3)(vii)(B) regarding the use of additional allocations to the accounts of nonhighly compensated employees for the purpose of correcting a discriminatory rate of matching contributions. A method of distributing excess aggregate contributions will not be considered discriminatory solely because, in accordance with the terms of the plan, unmatched employee contributions that exceed the highest rate at which employee contributions are matched are distributed before matched employee contributions, or matching contributions are distributed (or forfeited) prior to employee contributions. See Example 6 in paragraph (e)(6) of this section.
Guest Taxman Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 It's from Regulation 1.401(m)-1. The relevant paragraph is below (I obtained this through benefitslink source materials, but it's impossible to figure out the specific subsection).The issue comes up where you refund deferrals and there is a related match on those deferrals. The resulting rate of match is a problem under 401(a)(4). You then have two options - either forfeit the related match (even if it is fully vested), or increase the rate of match for NHCEs so that it is no longer discriminatory. After this section there is an example that goes through the process. First, refund the deferrals, then correct any ACP test failure (there you can refund a match to the extent vested), and then deal with the related match problem. 4) Coordination with section 401(a)(4). A matching contribution is taken into account under section 401(a)(4) even if it is distributed, unless the distributed contribution is an excess aggregate contribution. However, the method of distributing excess aggregate contributions provided in the plan must satisfy the requirements of section 401(a)(4). This requires that after correction each level of matching contributions be currently and effectively available to a group of employees that satisfies section 410(b). See Sec. 1.401(a)(4)-4(e)(3)(iii)(G). Thus, a plan that provides the same rate of matching contributions to all employees will not meet the requirements of section 401(a)(4) if employee contributions are distributed under this paragraph (e) to highly compensated employees to the extent needed to meet the requirements of section 401(m)(2), while matching contributions attributable to employee contributions remain allocated to the highly compensated employees' accounts. See Sec. 1.411(a)-4(b)(7) for a rule that allows forfeiture of these matching contributions to avoid a violation of section 401(a)(4). See also Sec. 1.401(a)(4)-11(g)(3)(vii)(B) regarding the use of additional allocations to the accounts of nonhighly compensated employees for the purpose of correcting a discriminatory rate of matching contributions. A method of distributing excess aggregate contributions will not be considered discriminatory solely because, in accordance with the terms of the plan, unmatched employee contributions that exceed the highest rate at which employee contributions are matched are distributed before matched employee contributions, or matching contributions are distributed (or forfeited) prior to employee contributions. See Example 6 in paragraph (e)(6) of this section. g8r Thanks for the response. One more question. Is the prohibition just against discriminatory matches for HCE's? For example, let's say I decided in a plan to match Jim and Jerry 1% and Bill and Bob 100%, and I pass every test because Bill and Bob are NHCE's. Isn't there a uniform match requirement or am I just dreaming?
Tom Poje Posted October 15, 2003 Posted October 15, 2003 Rate of Match is a BRF issue, which compares HCEs to NHCEs, so you can always favor NHCEs if you desire (if your document is written as such) If plan fails ACP test as well, you could distribute the match first. Excess aggregate contributions are not considered when testing the rate of match. There is nothing I know of that requires you to run the ADP first. Also see 1.414(v)-1(d)(2)(iii) excess contributions that are treated as catch-up contributions are still considered excess contributions. Therefore it is permitted to forfeit related match.
Guest oxdougw Posted October 21, 2003 Posted October 21, 2003 If HCEs fail ADP, we've typically in the past recalc'd match and taken away any excess match prior to the ACP test. I guess we thought that was the way it was to be handled. Is that correct?
Tom Poje Posted October 22, 2003 Posted October 22, 2003 Rate of match is determined AFTER corrections. see 1.401(a)(4)-4(e)(3)(iii)(G). so what should take place: Run ADP and ACP test Make any necessary corrections for failed test(s) Check for BRF issue. Related match is never distributed but rather forfeited. (Thank you for posting that question! I need to add that to my talk coming up for ASPA.)
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