Guest EDSAADE Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 would a notice to participants be required if vesting method is changed from "computation period" to an "elapsed time" method?
david rigby Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 To what notice are you referring? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Guest EDSAADE Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 i'm referring to Section 204(h) Notice. Although there isn't a change in vesting schedule, the methodology does affect participants years of vesting service.
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 I assume we are talking about a MP or TB plan, so the 204(h) rules apply. That being said, I am not sure of the answer to your question. I have not seen anything that addresses whether or not a vesting schedule change can constitute a "significant reduction in the rate of benefit accrual". Personally, I think that it could and would provide the notice to those whose YOS are reduced and who don't have the right to remain on the old schedule. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
WDIK Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 EDSAADE: Are you referring to the requirement under 411(a)(10)(B) calling for certain participants to be allowed to elect to stay under the plan's old vesting schedule? (Edit for grammer) ...but then again, What Do I Know?
david rigby Posted November 3, 2003 Posted November 3, 2003 ERISA 204(g) is analogous to IRC 411(d)(6). My read of 204(h) is that is unrelated to the vesting schedule. There are other issues to respect when the vesting schedule is changed under IRC 411(a)(10). Notice is possible, but not required. See Reg. 1.411(a)-8T(b)(1). http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/cfrhtml...26cfrv5_00.html I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Brian Gallagher Posted November 4, 2003 Posted November 4, 2003 if this is a qualified plan, wouldn't an SMM need to be done? Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
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