Guest baconmouse Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 Can a plan use a safe harbor matching contribution formula and not be a safe harbor plan? If so, please explain why.
Belgarath Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 Sure. The formula is only one part of the requirements to be a safe harbor. For example, you might not comply with the Notice requirements. So even though your formula satisfies the safe harbor matching formula requirements, you still don't have a safe harbor plan.
Alf Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 Also, the safe harbor match generally (assuming all other requirements are met) allows a plan to satisfy the ADP and ACP safeharbors. However, the plan could have other matching contributions or aftertax contributions that would be subject to ACP testing, so the plan would not be "safeharbor" for ACP.
Brian Gallagher Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Also, vesting. If you choose to vest the match over time, it wont be safe harbor. Withdrawal restictions: can't allow in hardship distributions. Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
R. Butler Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Withdrawal restictions: can't allow in hardship distributions. Just to clarify, the restriction against hardship withdrawals would only apply to the safe harbor contributions. Other money sources could still allow for hardship distributions.
Brian Gallagher Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 that's what I ment. Sorry for any confusion. Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
Alf Posted November 12, 2003 Posted November 12, 2003 To clarify the clarification, the withdrawal restrictions apply only to the safe harbor contributions AND normal QNECs.
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