oriecat Posted July 1, 2004 Posted July 1, 2004 I have an employee with a 401k loan. Yesterday I received a withholding order for a Chap 13 bankruptcy. The notice says "No deductions should be made or permitted for any wage garnishment, wage assignment, credit union or any other indebtedness.... [snip] deductions required by [snip] insurance, pension, or union dues agreement are not intended to be disturbed." So I am not sure if the 401k loan payment should be stopped. Is it considered an indebtedness? Or would it be seen as a pension agreement? I called the trustee for direction, but have not heard back yet and wanted to get some opinions. I read some previous threads on the subject, but they were confusing and unclear to me, with no concensus among respondents. Has there been any clarification on these points? Thank you.
Guest halka Posted July 1, 2004 Posted July 1, 2004 Unless/until you receive a waiver from the bankruptcy proceeding, you should cease withholding/crediting the participant loan payments. Yes, this could eventually result in a deemed distribution, but that's probably not so great a problem for someone in bankruptcy.
oriecat Posted July 1, 2004 Author Posted July 1, 2004 Would you stop it because it is considered an indebtedness? Some of the posts in older threads made it sound like loans are not considered indebtedness.
Harwood Posted July 1, 2004 Posted July 1, 2004 You need the interpretation of whether this court considers the loan payment to be "other indebtedness" or a deduction required by pension.
oriecat Posted July 2, 2004 Author Posted July 2, 2004 Well I heard back from the Trustee office and she said to continue deducting for now. After the meeting of creditors they could decide to require it to be stopped and then I would receive additional instructions.
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