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Guest padmin
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We have a large client with several thousand employees that has discovered

401(k) contributions have not been deducted from overtime for several years. Potentially 1000's of affected ees over a multi-year period. The document clearly states that overtime is included in the compensation defintion for deferrals. Any ideas?

Thanks

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You have a clear failure to operate the plan according to its terms, and so you need to get the client to have some interaction with the IRS. Read Rev. Proc. 2003-44 to see how.

"What's in the big salad?"

"Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."

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Perhaps. I suggest the sponsor should have a conversation with its ERISA attorney first. The attorney will initiate the "interaction" with the IRS.

I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.

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You might look at the difference between the definition of compenation (which tends to be comprehensive) and the designation of what sources of pay will be charged with deferrals (which may be more limited). It is very unlikey that this will help because most plan documents don't make that distinction. I suspect a lot of plans have items of compensation that are not actually charged with deferrals, but not usually with the magnitude of your problem. Some items of compensation are not cash and can't be charged directly.

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