austin3515 Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 A plan that does not require spousal consent obtained spousal consent for a plan distribution. Three interesting twists: 1) The participant also happens to be the owner/sponsor of the Company. 2) The participant forged the spouse's signature 3) He is now getting a divorce. He has obviously already spent the money and wants to avoid the court saying something along the lines of, "well obviously the spouses consent was required... as such fork over half of the dough." I'll settle for thoughts on the legal effect of obtaining a spousal consent when not necessary. Any thoughts? Austin Powers, CPA, QPA, ERPA
david rigby Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 If the plan does not require spousal consent, why does anyone care about a (possible) forgery? More interesting might be whether there was a distributable event under the plan. I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Brian Gallagher Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 I don't see any problem with it, especially if the spousal consent is NOT needed. To me, it's like forging a note from your wife allowing you to see an R-rated movie. Sure, you forged the note, but you never really needed it in the first place. (in my totally, UNLEGAL opinion) What might need to be looked at is the timing related to the divorce. In not sure what responsibility a sponsor has to stop a distribution if he/she knows a divorce is going on (even before it's been finalized). Remember: two wrongs don't make a right, but three rights make a left.
E as in ERISA Posted September 2, 2004 Posted September 2, 2004 Is this the only situation in which spousal consent was ever requested? Or are you just saying that this is plan is not one that was required to obtain spousal consent, but it is one of their procedures to do so? If it is the latter, then they should apply their procedures on a nondiscriminatory basis.
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