sloble@crowleyfleck.com Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 Top Heavy rules provide that, for purposes of determining whether a plan is top-heavy, you must exclude the account of any non-key employee if that employee was a key employee in any prior plan year. What if an employee is a key employee (a partner), then is TERMINATED AND RE-HIRED as an of-counsel non-key employee. Can we consider the re-hired employee a non-key employee and consider their account for purposes of top-heavy testing? The ability to do this would turn our 68% top heavy plan into an under-60% non-top heavy plan!
rcline46 Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 We need more details - when was the partner bought out/liquidated and when were they rehired? Also need to know their age, as I think I remember that if you were ever a Key employee after a certain age (55) you would always be Key. Any familial relationships that might trigger being Key?
sloble@crowleyfleck.com Posted October 5, 2004 Author Posted October 5, 2004 Here are more details: I'm not sure whether partner is over age 55--let's assume he is (does that really make a difference?) He was a partner (and a key employee) prior to 2002. As of 1/1/02, he became an of-counsel W-2 employee. He still has the same account under the profit-sharing plan (he did not take a distribution, although he could have on termination I presume). I hope this helps.
Tom Poje Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 it does not sound like he really terminated, rather switched 'jobs'. It sounds like he would simply be a 'former key' and therefore excluded entirely.
sloble@crowleyfleck.com Posted October 5, 2004 Author Posted October 5, 2004 Thanks, thats what we suspected and feared.
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