Guest ROB VIDOVICH Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Employer has a Profit Sharing Plan and a Money Purchase Pension Plan. The owner is the only employee and participant. The owner wants to have only one plan what should he do????? 1. Terminate Money Purchase Pension Plan and rollover over to PSP. 2. Merge/Transfer the Money Purchase Pension Plan assets into the PSP. If #2 is done will the employer have to complete a 5310-A Form before the merger/transfer of plan assets. These plans have been in existence for some time now but with the changes made to the 415 Limits the employer wants to only have one plan. What is the best way to accomplish his goal.... Thanks...
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 2 is the best option. A 5310-A is not needed as the merger meets one of the exceptions that you will find in the instructions. BTW, this should have been done years ago. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Appleby Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Blinky- why option 2? Wouldn’t option be better since there would be no need to track the MPPP assets for the REA provision Life and Death Planning for Retirement Benefits by Natalie B. Choatehttps://www.ataxplan.com/life-and-death-planning-for-retirement-benefits/ www.DeniseAppleby.com
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 While I don't see that as any hassle, I see now that the original post did mention that the owner is the only participant. With no vesting issues, then 1 is probably a little easier administratively. With 1 you have to prepare distribution forms. With 2 you have to prepare merger forms and track investments. Okay, I will go with 1 by a nose. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Demosthenes Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Go with the termination, if you terminate the MP and roll the assets into the PS plan, you leave behind those pesky spousal consent requirements
Blinky the 3-eyed Fish Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Although if that is your criterion, then you had to get spousal consent to roll over the money in the first place. "What's in the big salad?" "Big lettuce, big carrots, tomatoes like volleyballs."
Bird Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 I'd do the merger. Termination is a pretty big event in my book; you have to at least consider whether an IRS filing is appropriate, and whether terminating and not filing will trigger an audit (a few years ago the IRS said they would be looking more closely at terminations that don't file, but I haven't seen any evidence of that). J&S options are NBD, IMO. Ed Snyder
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