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I guess this has always bugged me and I'm hoping to get some clarity.

It was my understanding that 10% federal withholding applied to corrective refunds of excess contributions unless the participants elect out.

Now I am being told by one of the recordkeeping firms, that the 10% withholding only applies if the distribution is made after March 15.

Can anyone shed some light, share some insight.

Many thanks

Posted

The answer depends on both the type and timing of the corrective distribution.

Excess deferrals (exceed the 402(g) limit) - No withholding requirement

Excess contributions (ADP failure) - No withholding requirement if distributed within 2-1/2 months. I.R.C. Sec. 3405 applies after 2-1/2 months.

Excess aggregate contributions (ACP failure) - No withholding requirement if distributed within 2-1/2 months. I.R.C. Sec. 3405 applies after 2-1/2 months.

Sec. 415 annual additions - Subject to the rules of I.R.C. Sec. 3405.

Lori Friedman

Posted

The recordkeeper is probably confused. For ADP refunds, there is a 10% employer penalty if the excess contribution is refunded after 2 1/2 months after year-end (March 15 for calendar year plans).

Posted

As this is a non-periodic payment, it is subject to a mandatory 10% federal withholding as prescribed in IRC 3405(b)(1), unless the participant makes an election to not have the withholding taken (IRC 3405(b)(2)).

I agree w/ wmyer that the record-keeper might be confusing the federal withholding with the 10% excise tax prescribed in IRC 4979.

Posted

jaemmons, I respectfully disagree. The federal withholding tax rules for the four types of corrective distributions are described in the instructions to the 2004 Form 1099-R, pages R-3 and R-4. I summarized those rules in my previous message.

Lori Friedman

Posted

Lori,

I stand corrected. It makes sense, since it is not taxable in the current tax year, to not require any withholding. Thank you for the clarification. :D

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