Guest jetfaninmn Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 We have had a death in one of our take overplans during transition. The participant never completed a beneficiary designation form. She has Revokable Intervivos Trust for her assets. Because there is no bene designation, does the plan have the right to name someone else as beneficiary, not the trust. Can the plan name the children the benes - her spouse is deceased. How do I handle this??
david rigby Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 What does the Plan say? I'm a retirement actuary. Nothing about my comments is intended or should be construed as investment, tax, legal or accounting advice. Occasionally, but not all the time, it might be reasonable to interpret my comments as actuarial or consulting advice.
Belgarath Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 Most plans I've seen say something to the effect that if no beneficiary is named, then the benefit is payable to the spouse, (if there is one) and otherwise payable to the Participant's estate. Particularly if the amount is large, you should check with an attorney.
mbozek Posted August 10, 2005 Posted August 10, 2005 What does the plan provide if a bene is not designated? Usually the plan will have a default bene such as the spouse if married or estate if single. In a k plan the spouse is automaticlly the bene unless another person was designated. mjb
Lori H Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 What if the prototype document does NOT address this. I.E. corbel. Is there a citation that states an unmarried deceased participant that did not designate a beneficiary, their plan assets will go to their estate?
Guest mjb Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 I find it hard to believe that a prototype plan would not have default provision somewhere in the document. Did you check the beneficiary designation form? ERISA does not mandate any default beneficiary. If no bene is designated then the plan has a responsiblity to either pay the estate or divide the assets among the participant's surviving heirs. (But what administrator wants to take on the duty of searching for heirs?) Is there an estate that will be probated? If so the plan could pay the estate if a claim for benefits is filed by the executor or decedent's administrator.
J Simmons Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 I don't use Corbel's Prototype but notice that under Article VIII, Participant Administrative Provisions, of one of the DC Prototype Plans there are default death beneficiary designations. John Simmons johnsimmonslaw@gmail.com Note to Readers: For you, I'm a stranger posting on a bulletin board. Posts here should not be given the same weight as personalized advice from a professional who knows or can learn all the facts of your situation.
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